Serious takeover talk

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Guinness Guzzler said:
I think he would get a good reception tbh. In the list of football club owners he is far, far from the worst in that nothing he did was malicious or done without the clubs interests at heart. For me he'll always be remembered as a bloke who wanted to succeed here, who invested a **** load of his own money to try and do so, but who ultimately failed miserably due to a string of dreadful appointments (De Fanti was the most ridiculous because anyone would know that an agent being DoF was likely to fail).

Writing off so much debt meant that you could slightly forgive him for the fall to league one, certainly more than if he'd walked away and left us facing administration and potential bankruptcy, at least he tried in some way to give us a chance to recover from his reign, obviously knew he had failed and was big enough to take most of the hit himself.

If he's now been involved in trying to get these lads on board who have the money and the business knowledge to ensure we should be able to get back to the top flight and maybe even compete there, for me he's certainly done enough to warrant a decent reception if he's interested enough to come back for a game in the future. Like I say, he was a bad owner with hindsight, but not maliciously so and he's tried his best to put it right when others wouldn't have bothered, I certainly wouldn't give him any abuse
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His ‘can’t be arsed / I’ve had enough of this **** stance Moyes onwards was a disgrace mind. Before then he just appointed the wrong people - Byrne being the main one. Same mistake as the current lot for me. Lots of business and commercial acumen not enough football acumen .
 
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Pure River Slut said:
His ‘can’t be arsed / I’ve had enough of this **** stance Moyes onwards was a disgrace mind. Before then he just appointed the wrong people - Byrne being the main one. Same mistake as the current lot for me. Lots of business and commercial acumen not enough football acumen .
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I'm not sure it was really a case of not being arsed, probably more just a case that we were getting into more and more debt despite the money he'd been investing. When he looked and saw that whatever he spent on players tended to just add to the debt (because they'd invariably be ****e and we'd sell for a loss, or they'd decide they didn't want to play football any more, or they became a nonce) he probably just worked out it wasn't sensible for anyone if he put more in. Equally he kept hiring managers and then needing to pay them off a year later. We've all got a level whereby we say enough is enough. All the above was caused by his poor decision making mind, if we'd had the right football people involved it might have been avoided, but I don't think it's as simple as he just stopped being arsed. In fact if we take at face value what has come out since (he wanted Donald and Methven because they didn't want to port the debt, he wrote off money due, he's worked with the new owners on legacy debt even after the deal is agreed, someone even said he still has season tickets) it's obvious that he is still arsed, he must just have known that he was throwing money down a black hole
 
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Smug in Boots said:
I honestly believe it's done.

Methven wouldn't dare announce that to a handful of people 'behind the backs' of the majority of supporters.

Hell on ....
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God I f*cking hope so!

Whilst I always have that ridiculous feeling of excitement at 2.59pm thinking:
"I KNOW we're going to get something here!"

In between matches I looked around at the situation and was really beginning to lose all hope.
I thought that Ross wouldn't get us promoted and we'd end up with another financial meltdown / crisis.

The performance (more than the result!) on Tuesday allied to some good news on the investment front will give people (especially me) a huge boost of optimism I reckon.

Fingers crossed!
 
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Pure River Slut said:
His ‘can’t be arsed / I’ve had enough of this **** stance Moyes onwards was a disgrace mind. Before then he just appointed the wrong people - Byrne being the main one. Same mistake as the current lot for me. Lots of business and commercial acumen not enough football acumen .
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So explain to us the football acumen that you believe is necessary and who has it in the clubs that you admire.
Quinn was a football man yet reckoned cliff byrne was destined for the top??
He presided over keane wasting 60m 13 years ago in 2 windows ( a lot of money then ). Do you want managers to manage or do you expect dof's or ceo's to interfere.
We all swooned when o"neill was appointed. He was crap. Can you imagine the uproar if a hard ass CEO was interfering with his spending at his first window?
This bilge about a 'football man' is laughable. Cheap, colorful and thrown around like confetti.
The vast majority panned kirchoff after his first game. Worst premier player ever, worst debut ever etc etc. The average fan knows about as much as the despised Byrne about football.
I think your sort don't or didn't like byrne because she was a threat. Young, successful, educated and sin of sins..a woman.
 
FulwellBri said:
So explain to us the football acumen that you believe is necessary and who has it in the clubs that you admire.
Quinn was a football man yet reckoned cliff byrne was destined for the top??
He presided over keane wasting 60m 13 years ago in 2 premier windows ( a lot of money then ). Do you want managers to manage or do you expect dof's or ceo's to interfere.
We all swooned when o"neill was appointed. He was crap. Can you imagine the uproar if a hard ass CEO was interfering with his spending at his first window?
This bilge about a 'football man' is laughable. Cheap, colorful and thrown around like confetti.
The vast majority panned kirchoff after his first game. Worst premier player ever, worst debut ever etc etc. The average fan knows about as much as the despised Byrne about football.
I think your sort don't or didn't like byrne because she was a threat. Young, successful, educated and sin of sins..a woman.
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Guinness Guzzler said:
I'm looking forward to the miserable bastards going from "it isn't happening" to "okay it happened but it isn't a full takeover, I don't think Dell is involved and they aren't going to spunk £50m in January so it's not worth getting excited about". God forbid they could ever actually get some enjoyment from supporting their club
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These people mustn't get excited about anything. To them 'shoot your load' refers to a lorry full of football annuals! <laugh>
 
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Bigmackem said:
Quite possibly as Ellis Short spends most of his time in Florida as his son of the same name is a tennis player with a lot of potential, the group and Dell invest in Miami Marlins with a 7% stake which doesn’t appear much but the total worth of 1.5 Billion Dollars value for the franchise makes it a hefty investment. I would suggest as fellow successful businessmen their would be a good chance of them meeting and could this have led to the mention of SAFC as Ellis Short still retains a soft spot for the club .
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Agree mate. Isn't one of the trio of FPP a hedge fund manager too?
 
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