Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%
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    Votes: 61 52.1%

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Juncker now saying the EU will not grant a further extension. This is massive and will most likely see Johnson's deal passed.

Seems this is probably not as significant as I first thought. Juncker was just saying there won't be any need for an extension because we've agreed a deal. Most commentators seem to agree that if the deal was rejected by parliament, the 27 would indeed grant an extension to facilitate a new referendum or GE.

Still a help to Johnson, though.
 
Seems this is probably not as significant as I first thought. Juncker was just saying there won't be any need for an extension because we've agreed a deal. Most commentators seem to agree that if the deal was rejected by parliament, the 27 would indeed grant an extension to facilitate a new referendum or GE.

Still a help to Johnson, though.

Yes, and it's for the EU27 to decide not Juncker. Him saying what he said was probably the unwritten part of the deal to help persuade a few MP's.
 
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Suggests that Johnson will need all of the ERG, most 'independent' Tories and a significant number of Labour MPs onside to win by 29.

Hard to see.
 
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Yes. I can't see the DUP voting for this. In fairness to them, they never been anything but clear on what their only red line is - no border down the Irish Sea. So when a deal is presented to them with a border down the Irish Sea [essentially shifting the problem from N/S to E/W] it's no shock that they won't vote for it.
The DUP backed Boris last week with an Irish Sea border when they would be allowed to veto it at Stormount. This deal dosent give them the power they seek so they are crying about the Good Friday Agreement having coach and horses driven through it. They never worried about the GFR before. Bigoted hateful shower.
 
Donald 'Fleetwood mac' Tusk just admitted that without the EU compromising during negotiations the UK would've left without there being any sort of deal. Blimey! Could it possibly be that keeping 'No Deal' as an option assisted in facilitating this compromise?

Who'd 'ave thunk it? :)
 
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I've apparently been fortunate not to encounter the Beeb's UK political correspondent, Rob Watson, before. Strewth! What an utterly biased ****.
 
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