Totally understand... I was asked many years ago to move out there and nearly did... some of the stories I hear coming out of Jo'burg and Cape Town is horrendous... I thought Honduras was bad for murders/robbery... it seems like SA is steadily getting the same way but without the international coverage.... Sorry.. totally off takevover topicPolitically its a nightmare and if you live in the big cities..Jo"burg, Durban or Cape Town its very violent. But we are considering The Western Cape (The Garden Route) nothing of that krap there at all... My issue is apart from the Mrs...is my grandkids.