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Please tell Chesh we were at war. He doesn't believe me or the Encyclopaedia Britannica. Perhaps he'll listen to you.

And yes, diplomatic relations were restored, but there has never been an agreement on the sovereignty of the Falklands, and as such, the hostilities on the cause of the war has never been resolved, officially or otherwise. Their President is quite vocal on this, and very hostile.

I think everyone can agree we were at war, that's obvious. Isn't the dispute between you two the fact that it was an undeclared war? 'Undeclared' doesn't mean no war took place, it just means that Argentina instigated an unlawful military action over the Falklands and Britain retaliated in kind. There just wasn't that Chamberlain moment:

Declaration of war: Chamberlain's radio broadcast, 3 September 1939, 11am
I am speaking to you from the cabinet room at 10 Downing Street. This morning the British ambassador in Berlin handed the German government a final note stating that unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland, a state of war would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with Germany.
 
Please tell Chesh we were at war. He doesn't believe me or the Encyclopaedia Britannica. Perhaps he'll listen to you.

And yes, diplomatic relations were restored, but there has never been an agreement on the sovereignty of the Falklands, and as such, the hostilities on the cause of the war has never been resolved, officially or otherwise. Their President is quite vocal on this, and very hostile.
Their president is very friendly, it was the woman 6 years ago who was hostile, you must be stuck in a time warp. How can you declare an end to a war that was never declared in the first place, you know you're wrong for sure, just think if you argue long enough you won't have to admit you are wrong.
 
My sister died young but thanks for your concern.


I'll reiterate my belief that out of the 3 Party leaders Johnson is by far the best choice.
BoJo, like Trump in the USA has got the Iibtard, Lefty snowflakes frothing at the mouth so he's ok by me, if he gets The UK out of the EU without a deal he will be the greatest PM this country has ever seen
 
I think everyone can agree we were at war, that's obvious. Isn't the dispute between you two the fact that it was an undeclared war? 'Undeclared' doesn't mean no war took place, it just means that Argentina instigated an unlawful military action over the Falklands and Britain retaliated in kind. There just wasn't that Chamberlain moment:

Declaration of war: Chamberlain's radio broadcast, 3 September 1939, 11am
I am speaking to you from the cabinet room at 10 Downing Street. This morning the British ambassador in Berlin handed the German government a final note stating that unless we heard from them by 11 o'clock that they were prepared at once to withdraw their troops from Poland, a state of war would exist between us. I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with Germany.
Jock thinks we are at war because we haven't declared an official end, but as we never had an official start how can you have an end. He knows he's wrong, he just believes if he keeps huffing and puffing that means he's won.
 
BoJo, like Trump in the USA has got the Iibtard, Lefty snowflakes frothing at the mouth so he's ok by me, if he gets The UK out of the EU without a deal he will be the greatest PM this country has ever seen

Agreed. What bird he's shagging or allegedly groped 20 years ago is irrelevant.
 
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Thanks for that image Olof, I'm just about to eat ffs :emoticon-0119-puke:


Steptoe should be charged with bestiality the dirty old ****.
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Sorry Bud:rolleyes:
Apparently when the dirty old commie tramp was hanging out of her he was heard singing

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Since you're in denial, Chesh, let's first deal with you're initial claim. You claimed that there was no war. Your words, not mine. And wrong, as your later posts confirm by your own hand ....

ow and to cut through all your waffle, we never were at war with Argentina, it was just a local conflict, so we are not at war and never were. Just 100% wrong on that one WJ.

So I replied, inviting you to prove it. Of course, I got the usual waffle from you to avoid the subject at hand ...

Well would be very easy for you to prove, put up link of us or them declaring war. Didn't happen another figment of your imagination <laugh>

That was where you introduced the term 'declaring', which I invite you to check back to find me mentioning it (clue: it never happened, so you'll never find it). So I replied as follows, giving you a link to a very reputable source with very, very clear information about us officially being at war. I also invited you to provide a link to rubbish the Encyclopaedia Britannica's factual reporting ...

LOL. Here we go again Putting words into my mouth.

Where did I say that the war was declared? I said we were AT WAR. Here's your link

... https://www.britannica.com/event/Falkland-Islands-War

Where's your counter? The one to support your assertion that we were never at war with them?

And what did I get instead of a link? You returned to declaring that the war never happened again! <doh> How Chesh-like! You seem to forget that you're committing your views to a record that can be referenced at any time. ROFL. I note that you also re-accuse me of saying that we declared war. So it seems that you never checked back to find out that I didn't! ....

How stupid are you, how can anyone put up a link to something that never happened. It's like me asking you to put up a link to the time you scored 20 goals for Leeds, as it never happened there's no link. <doh> <doh> <doh> so you now admit, we never declared war with the country of Argentina, they never on us. We never fired one bullet at Argentina and they never fired one bullet at the UK, So you said we are still at war with Argentina, but we never were so we are not,. As usual your talking **** and are wrong again.

So if we are still at war with any country we've ever fired a bullet at like WJ thinks we are in the middle of WW3 fighting half the world as we speak <laugh> <yikes> and Bielsa's a real spy, who we will take out and shoot any day now. <whistle> ow it's OK it just WJ away with the fairies again ;)

Now I could go on, but it's clear for all to see from the above - and your own words - that you must know that you're wrong and won't admit it. It's very clear from this initial exchange that I said we were AT WAR, which you replied to by saying we WERE NOT AT WAR, then, probably realising you were talking pish & had got found out, changed your terms of reference again to saying that I said that we had DECLARED WAR. At no time have you ever, ever produced evidence that I said it, as it's clear for anyone that wants to check that I never, ever said that. More lying invention from Chesh. You're obviously desperate to cover up the fact that you're lying. Bit silly when it's all in print. You can't deny it - you clearly said we were never at war.

Now hopefully you'll put this to bed. There was a war in the Falklands which everyone in the country appears to know, apart from you. It happened. You're wrong. End of.

Now, with respect to the cessation of the war, Perhaps I've been clumsy with my words in presenting the situation. Yes, the fighting stopped on the FI. Yes, diplomatic relations were resumed. There is no doubt about it, & I hope you'll agree on this.

HOWEVER, the cause of the war has never been resolved. Never. The hostility remains, as no solution has been found or ground given, far less any agreement or treaty being signed. So the official hostility remains in place, and will no doubt remain so for the foreseeable future, especially as the oil exploration in the FI area continues. Yes, as usual, it's all about money.

But, I must concede that perhaps there has been an official cessation of hostilities and I've missed it. If this is the case, please supply me with a link to this document & I'll happily concede that the hostilities have ended. I have a vested interest, as I'm going to be in Buenos Aires in December, and again in February.

But I think it's a forlorn hope. You're not really a link giver, are you? I can understand this, as you often put yourself in a position where you claim something & can't prove it 'cos it's simply not true, and there is no link to find. Like on this occasion.

Let the links flow - if you can find them.

Btw, please don't start with your drivel again to avoid the point. It's laid out clearly here what you've said, plus a few of your manoeuvres to avoid admitting you're wrong. I've clearly proved you wrong here.

The floor is clear for you to PROVE ME WRONG WITH EVIDENCE, not rambling, irrelevant & contradictory pish from the world of Chesh.