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So nobody should not go except if they have a reason ?

No, that's not what I've said at all. My view is that using the Allams as a reason not to go is now a tad empty. It may have had a point once, but that time has passed us by and the only detrimental outcome is to the team support or your own enjoyment. Unless of course you just can't be arsed anymore, which has been the honest outcome for many of us, regardless of where we live.
 
hahaha In my drunken state I thought you were calling the non attendees gobshites, and where did I say I was a hardcase? I just enjoyed walking into the ground with an full away end and the air almost electric with tension. it was scary plenty of times and added to the experience. you didn't have to be hard or aggressive or anything to get off on it.
on the unofficial coaches 99 per cent were like minded youths/young blokes. im wondering where all the wet lettuces were back then who've grown up to slag us all off as idiots.

It was your drunken stance

coming on all aggressive yet I doubt when it game to aggression at football games you werent within a mile

Misunderstanding cleared up.
 
No, that's not what I've said at all. My view is that using the Allams as a reason not to go is now a tad empty. It may have had a point once, but that time has passed us by and the only detrimental outcome is to the team support or your own enjoyment. Unless of course you just can't be arsed anymore, which has been the honest outcome for many of us, regardless of where we live.

Yeah for what it's worth, this is my take on it now too. I've got a membership this season for the first time since 2015. I hate the Allams as much as anyone but at this point the club isn't making money, and more importantly, the atmosphere at games isn't the poisonous one it was in 2014/15 with people booing each other and all the rest of it. Games are way more enjoyable, in my opinion, now that everyone is aware of what's going on and there's no unrest between supporters.

When I first stopped going my criteria was that I'd be back when they were gone, or when they stopped running the club so despicably. Some things have been improved, albeit with still no humility or hint of apology from the Allams. They're still ****s, but the dwindling crowds are only harming the club and its future at this point. It's undoubtedly the Allams' fault, but me boycotting now just seems like harming the club for no gain.
 
Yeah for what it's worth, this is my take on it now too. I've got a membership this season for the first time since 2015. I hate the Allams as much as anyone but at this point the club isn't making money, and more importantly, the atmosphere at games isn't the poisonous one it was in 2014/15 with people booing each other and all the rest of it. Games are way more enjoyable, in my opinion, now that everyone is aware of what's going on and there's no unrest between supporters.

When I first stopped going my criteria was that I'd be back when they were gone, or when they stopped running the club so despicably. Some things have been improved, albeit with still no humility or hint of apology from the Allams. They're still ****s, but the dwindling crowds are only harming the club and its future at this point. It's undoubtedly the Allams' fault, but me boycotting now just seems like harming the club for no gain.

Good lad, detailing your change of viewpoint on here.

No point in going over old ground but I'm still awaiting an apology from David Lloyd for calling the people of Hull crap.
 
Yeah for what it's worth, this is my take on it now too. I've got a membership this season for the first time since 2015. I hate the Allams as much as anyone but at this point the club isn't making money, and more importantly, the atmosphere at games isn't the poisonous one it was in 2014/15 with people booing each other and all the rest of it. Games are way more enjoyable, in my opinion, now that everyone is aware of what's going on and there's no unrest between supporters.

When I first stopped going my criteria was that I'd be back when they were gone, or when they stopped running the club so despicably. Some things have been improved, albeit with still no humility or hint of apology from the Allams. They're still ****s, but the dwindling crowds are only harming the club and its future at this point. It's undoubtedly the Allams' fault, but me boycotting now just seems like harming the club for no gain.

Exactly, PLT, I totally get your take on actively supporting The Tigers.

If I were closer to Hull and at a different stage of life, I may probably have found the love again, but I now only attend the odd game up here as a treat for the grandkids and have no affinity to the clubs.

Perhaps this is clearer for AlRawdah, but I doubt it, somehow...
 
Yeah for what it's worth, this is my take on it now too. I've got a membership this season for the first time since 2015. I hate the Allams as much as anyone but at this point the club isn't making money, and more importantly, the atmosphere at games isn't the poisonous one it was in 2014/15 with people booing each other and all the rest of it. Games are way more enjoyable, in my opinion, now that everyone is aware of what's going on and there's no unrest between supporters.

When I first stopped going my criteria was that I'd be back when they were gone, or when they stopped running the club so despicably. Some things have been improved, albeit with still no humility or hint of apology from the Allams. They're still ****s, but the dwindling crowds are only harming the club and its future at this point. It's undoubtedly the Allams' fault, but me boycotting now just seems like harming the club for no gain.

Very honest and well said
 
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Yeah for what it's worth, this is my take on it now too. I've got a membership this season for the first time since 2015. I hate the Allams as much as anyone but at this point the club isn't making money, and more importantly, the atmosphere at games isn't the poisonous one it was in 2014/15 with people booing each other and all the rest of it. Games are way more enjoyable, in my opinion, now that everyone is aware of what's going on and there's no unrest between supporters.

When I first stopped going my criteria was that I'd be back when they were gone, or when they stopped running the club so despicably. Some things have been improved, albeit with still no humility or hint of apology from the Allams. They're still ****s, but the dwindling crowds are only harming the club and its future at this point. It's undoubtedly the Allams' fault, but me boycotting now just seems like harming the club for no gain.

Well said!
 
I can't believe some people are saying it's time to stop blaming the two ****s for staying away, well **** off with that. I think I can decide when I start going again seeing as it is my choice.
This is my 51st season following City and no that doesn't make me a super fan. I'm 65 yrs old so i'll get concessions now but I don't care about that, I just want these to ****s to **** off so that I can start going and enjoying the games no matter what League we're in. Allams, **** off and when you reach there, **** off again.
 
I can't believe some people are saying it's time to stop blaming the two ****s for staying away, well **** off with that. I think I can decide when I start going again seeing as it is my choice.
This is my 51st season following City and no that doesn't make me a super fan. I'm 65 yrs old so i'll get concessions now but I don't care about that, I just want these to ****s to **** off so that I can start going and enjoying the games no matter what League we're in. Allams, **** off and when you reach there, **** off again.


Let's hope you like the new owners better.
 
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No, that's not what I've said at all. My view is that using the Allams as a reason not to go is now a tad empty. It may have had a point once, but that time has passed us by and the only detrimental outcome is to the team support or your own enjoyment. Unless of course you just can't be arsed anymore, which has been the honest outcome for many of us, regardless of where we live.
I find it very impressive how you know how people think, Fez. That's quite a talent.

You've joined the "People are just using the Allams as an excuse" brigade.

Listen mate. I will never pay a single penny to the Allam family.

That's it. End of.

****ing hell, is there anything more frustrating than people telling you you're lying, when you're so ****ing passionate about your ideals.

So you can't go, but you think everybody else should? Ha <laugh>

I find it amazing that people are now starting to blame fans for the club's demise.

Hope you are well fella :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
I can't believe some people are saying it's time to stop blaming the two ****s for staying away, well **** off with that. I think I can decide when I start going again seeing as it is my choice.
This is my 51st season following City and no that doesn't make me a super fan. I'm 65 yrs old so i'll get concessions now but I don't care about that, I just want these to ****s to **** off so that I can start going and enjoying the games no matter what League we're in. Allams, **** off and when you reach there, **** off again.
And is it looks like they’re going nowhere
So why cut off your nose etc
Concessions are back
Hating the owners of your team isn’t the sole preserve of the hull city fan.
Look around most have **** dodgy owners
Of some description
 
And is it looks like they’re going nowhere
So why cut off your nose etc
Concessions are back
Hating the owners of your team isn’t the sole preserve of the hull city fan.
Look around most have **** dodgy owners
Of some description

As i've said Chazz, it's my choice and i'm not giving those two ****s a penny of my money, they're taking enough. I haven't questioned why people still go because that's their choice, so I don't expect to be questioned on my decision.
Hope your well and enjoying the season so far.
 
As i've said Chazz, it's my choice and i'm not giving those two ****s a penny of my money, they're taking enough. I haven't questioned why people still go because that's their choice, so I don't expect to be questioned on my decision.
Hope your well and enjoying the season so far.
But you’re not giving g them your money it’s a ridiculous thing to say. They aren’t the club and never were.
You should question everything
Why not it’s a message board
You won’t get anyone more rabid anti Allam than plt
And he’s changed his stance
 
No, that's not what I've said at all. My view is that using the Allams as a reason not to go is now a tad empty. It may have had a point once, but that time has passed us by and the only detrimental outcome is to the team support or your own enjoyment. Unless of course you just can't be arsed anymore, which has been the honest outcome for many of us, regardless of where we live.

Cant be arsed anymore could be correct. In a pub that had many people in for the prem games, seven were watching the City game.
 
Cant be arsed anymore could be correct. In a pub that had many people in for the prem games, seven were watching the City game.
If people don't want to go to the games, they shouldn't go. They don't have a duty to go, they're not obligated to go.

It really is that simple. For me, it's very clear why people don't want to go.
 
If people don't want to go to the games, they shouldn't go. They don't have a duty to go, they're not obligated to go.

It really is that simple. For me, it's very clear why people don't want to go.
Doesn’t it feel better to say
Even through the **** I went?? Its my club not theirs!!
Look at Leeds and the **** they’ve had for nearly twenty years finally getting some sort of reward now! Charlton ?
Should Bolton fans boycott??
Should bury?
Or dig deep and get behind them
 
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