Off Topic The Politics Thread

[sb_73]

Yeah in France mate, ****ing shocking.

With regards to Glucagon, we have it but try to use it as a real last resort. If the hypo is severe, much better to go straight in IV with glucose as using the Glucagon just realises the stores of Glucose in the liver and takes a long time to replenish.
Obviously not trained to do IV so if I was with an EAC instead of a Paramedic, then I’d have to go with the Glucagon.....it’s easy to administer.
Why you ask ?

Professional reasons mate. My company has an alternative method of delivery for glucagon, which is easy for professionals to administer but much more difficult for relatives/carers with a consequent high rate of failure to get the stuff into the body effectively. I was curious to see what a professional thought.

 

[Staines R's]

Professional reasons mate. My company has an alternative method of delivery for glucagon, which is easy for professionals to administer but much more difficult for relatives/carers with a consequent high rate of failure to get the stuff into the body effectively. I was curious to see what a professional thought.

It is a bit of a pain in the arse to prepare (if I remember right) the powder has to be mixed with the saline, and then drawn back into the needle before administering.
If I remember right we are now meant to dump the original needle and use a drawing up needle due the possibility of getting rubber particles in the solution. It ain’t difficult but a bit fiddly.
Where do they carers fail ? Is it just in preparation or the administration ?
Surely it’s just an IM injection which is pretty straight forward.....or maybe ‘cos I’m trained to do it, it seems easy to me (pinch skin, push in needle, push in plunger)

Nb just reread your OP, and thinking the new way is hard to administer ??
Tell me more if you can.....

 

[sb_73]

It is a bit of a pain in the arse to prepare (if I remember right) the powder has to be mixed with the saline, and then drawn back into the needle before administering.
If I remember right we are now meant to dump the original needle and use a drawing up needle due the possibility of getting rubber particles in the solution. It ain’t difficult but a bit fiddly.
Where do they carers fail ? Is it just in preparation or the administration ?
Surely it’s just an IM injection which is pretty straight forward.....or maybe ‘cos I’m trained to do it, it seems easy to me (pinch skin, push in needle, push in plunger)

Nb just reread your OP, and thinking the new way is hard to administer ??
Tell me more if you can.....

Carers fail in mixing and injecting, they don’t get to practice like you and are in a panic when they do it. Our version is a ready made up nasal spray, patient doesn’t even need to breathe in, absorbed through the skin. Idiot proof. But it’s expensive compared to Glucagon, both keeping the substance stable and the device. Probably won’t be available on the NHS we suspect.

 

[Staines R's]

Carers fail in mixing and injecting, they don’t get to practice like you and are in a panic when they do it. Our version is a ready made up nasal spray, patient doesn’t even need to breathe in, absorbed through the skin. Idiot proof. But it’s expensive compared to Glucagon, both keeping the substance stable and the device. Probably won’t be available on the NHS we suspect.

I totally get that......as I said it is fiddly and if you haven’t seen someone having a diabetic coma before it can panic you and make it even harder to prepare.
I love the nasal spray idea.....quick and easy to administer....as you say, if cost is an issue I can’t see the NHS being able to afford it, real shame.

 

[rangercol]

Maybe the Pharma company could make it more affordable?



Ah......wait...

 

[DT’s Socks]

You need to keep out of the sun, P.
The drivel factor you spout is warped to factor 10

Nope if posters are accepted to respectfully slag off the EU lumping all the blame onto others I can counter that with the truth

As Englishmen like myself you should have the balance and dignity to realise the demise of the U.K. was in fact made in Britain made the British

Loving the weather in France it’s sensational and the sun shines on the righteous and the blessed

Bollocks to the brainwashed I say
No ideas and no plan

Stay off the history channel although there is massive pride about our past that’s where it stays imo. You suckers blew it x

 

[DT’s Socks]

Shocking videos going around of peaceful protesters being sprayed with tear gas by the CRS while sitting down. No wonder they (the police) are hated over there and are faced with riots in a weekly basis
What a police state that country is becoming.......shame on them and their supporters

What a load of cobblers ... a police state
Comments like that mould the brainwashed imo
It’s easier to hit a stationary target
It was 47 on my balcony in the shade see nanny state has gone meltdown at 34 can’t cope and the rest of the year the gospel of the weather especially on the BBC always owns and preaches that little Britain really is enjoying the weather like a religion

The weather is **** in the U.K. generally and if the sun shines then the country stops ... lazy **** ups

Get on with life

Oh it’s hotter than Cuba in the U.K. as reported as a headline on Sky ... great apart from the fact no one can go anywhere and will spend millions of gigabytes telling everyone how great their lives are ... sheep

 

[Staines R's]

Nope if posters are accepted to respectfully slag off the EU lumping all the blame onto others I can counter that with the truth

As Englishmen like myself you should have the balance and dignity to realise the demise of the U.K. was in fact made in Britain made the British

Loving the weather in France it’s sensational and the sun shines on the righteous and the blessed

Bollocks to the brainwashed I say
No ideas and no plan

Stay off the history channel although there is massive pride about our past that’s where it stays imo. You suckers blew it x

We know whose side you would of been at Waterloo.......traitor!!

 

[sb_73]

Maybe the Pharma company could make it more affordable?



Ah......wait...

Joining the left Col? You old Marxist you!

Sadly medicines are made in exactly the same system that cars, phones and widgets are. Capitalism. It’s just a business. shareholder value is king. Drugs are just another commodity. Your government decides whether you have the right to access them or not, or whether you have to pay for them yourself.

Want to change it? Join the revolution!

[in this particular case though, the issue isn’t profiteering. The drug we have is exactly the same as the one Stainsey uses, it does the same thing. It’s just much easier to use and more likely to succeed as a result. The NHS doesn’t pay for what it calls ‘convenience’, and it’s illegal to sell drugs at less than cost price which we would have to do to be the same price as the current version, which is what the NHS tells us they would pay. Catch 22]

 

[Staines R's]

What a load of cobblers ... a police state
Comments like that mould the brainwashed imo
It’s easier to hit a stationary target
It was 47 on my balcony in the shade see nanny state has gone meltdown at 34 can’t cope and the rest of the year the gospel of the weather especially on the BBC always owns and preaches that little Britain really is enjoying the weather like a religion

The weather is **** in the U.K. generally and if the sun shines then the country stops ... lazy **** ups

Get on with life

Oh it’s hotter than Cuba in the U.K. as reported as a headline on Sky ... great apart from the fact no one can go anywhere and will spend millions of gigabytes telling everyone how great their lives are ... sheep

Fascist French Police......
Rude French Waiters.......
Striking French Traffic Controllers


I can see a pattern here.

A joke of a country that’s disliked by most except the bourgeoisie who have their holiday homes over there.

Sacre merde !!!

 

[sb_73]

Fascist French Police......
Rude French Waiters.......
Striking French Traffic Controllers


I can see a pattern here.

A joke of a country that’s disliked by most except the bourgeoisie who have their holiday homes over there.

Sacre merde !!!

Come on Stainsey, we like strikers, workers who stand up for themselves.

 

[Staines R's]

Come on Stainsey, we like strikers, workers who stand up for themselves.

You got me there mate .

 

[Stroller]

Remarkable hatchet job on Corbyn in the Times today. Claim (in the news rather than the opinion section, not that this means anything in modern journalism) that not only is he a puppet of his inner circle, incapable of making a decision himself, but also his physical and mental health is failing, memory up **** creek, possibly had a small stroke. Speculation that he will stand down at the party conference and nominate Rebecca Long Bailey as his successor.

Might be true, but also highly likely that Conservative Central Office has given Murdoch a ring and told him to start slinging the **** in expectation of an election in the very near future.

Meanwhile a poll states that a majority of Tory party voters, as opposed to Tory party members, think that Hunt would make a better PM than Johnson.

The Times used to be reputable newspaper didn't it?

I'd be happy to see Corbyn stand down though.

 

[Staines R's]

The Times used to be reputable newspaper didn't it?

I'd be happy to see Corbyn stand down though.

Who would you have in charge Stroller ?
I’d have McDonnell. The right wing MSM would hate him but he’d be a good leader, in my opinion.

 

[Stroller]

Who would you have in charge Stroller ?
I’d have McDonnell. The right wing MSM would hate him but he’d be a good leader, in my opinion.

Yep, he'll do for me.

 

[Steelmonkey]

Carers fail in mixing and injecting, they don’t get to practice like you and are in a panic when they do it. Our version is a ready made up nasal spray, patient doesn’t even need to breathe in, absorbed through the skin. Idiot proof. But it’s expensive compared to Glucagon, both keeping the substance stable and the device. Probably won’t be available on the NHS we suspect.

I totally get that......as I said it is fiddly and if you haven’t seen someone having a diabetic coma before it can panic you and make it even harder to prepare.
I love the nasal spray idea.....quick and easy to administer....as you say, if cost is an issue I can’t see the NHS being able to afford it, real shame.

Just spoke to Mrs Steels about this - she's adminstered Glucagon loads whilst she worked on the wards. Not so much now she runs the medical team in the local prison. She's heard there's plans to introduce a nasal version of Naloxone for opiate overdoses, which is exceptionally useful where she is, but again probably be out of the reach of the NHS on financial grounds.

 

[Staines R's]

Just spoke to Mrs Steels about this - she's adminstered Glucagon loads whilst she worked on the wards. Not so much now she runs the medical team in the local prison. She's heard there's plans to introduce a nasal version of Naloxone for opiate overdoses, which is exceptionally useful where she is, but again probably be out of the reach of the NHS on financial grounds.

Naloxone is brilliant.....but after you give it to the user it’s best to get as far away as safely possible.....they’re never very happy to have their ‘high’ ruined.

 

[Steelmonkey]

Mali one is brilliant.....but after you give it to the user it’s best to get as far away as safely possible.....they’re never very happy to have their ‘high’ ruined.

A wry laugh from the missus - a daily occurance I think....

 

[Staines R's]

A wry laugh from the missus - a daily occurance I think....

Mate, it happens all the time. F*** me they can get well nasty

 

[Staines R's]

News coming in of a pregnant woman stabbed and killed in Croydon and the baby delivered on scene.......

But let’s all worry about Brexit, eh ?