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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
The stabbing situation is far worse in London than the rest of the country. The London electorate will make a decision on Khan's time in office. The general feeling is that he is taking money he could use to help to stop this violence and channelling it to pet projects like "diversity", cycle lanes etc. Even people like David Lammy are complaining that he seems indifferent to the number of violent deaths in London so far, not attending funerals, seeing families of the deceased etc. On violent crime, Khan is "hands off". It's not an easy game to play at a time of austerity, but taking that into account, he is playing his hand badly.

Interesting that this comes at a time when so many people are now leaving London, and blaming violent crime as one of the key factors in their decision to go.

To be honest, after watching the factual series called ‘Hometown’ on BBC I player, where a journalist returns to his hometown of Huddersfield to investigate a police shooting and sees how violent and riddled with gun and knife crime the area is....I’m not not so sure it’s a mainly London problem.....
 
Once again the editor of Spiked, formerly Marxism Today, now converted to ultra free market libertarianism has his say, and his fans sat in their darkened bedrooms cheer. He might have a tiny element of a point, but to claim he believes in democracy is bollocks.
I went to school with him. Absolute arsehole
 
Thanks. If one is a true believer in democracy (as wot I is) then one has to honour the referendum but, in doing so, one simply cannot ignore the closeness of the referendum result, majority or not.

Saw my new babe, Caroline Flint, on QT t’other night. Good lass, is Caroline. I’d get those bags out from under those tired, tired eyes. :)
I thought she was excellent - the only politician in a while who's appealed to the softer elements of leave and remain. And yes I would <whistle>
 
How did we ever manage without the wonderful EU?

Those were the days
Good old Blighty Pioneers in the modern world? Hope in reflection you will see we sold out almost everything and became a very lazy self obsessed nation that has remained increasingly hungry and arrogant .

Eaten and destroyed our own culture and now we want those good old days back all this without a plan and all of this with the massive support of the EU

Instead of blaming others for our downfall I believe we should of led the EU but somehow we decided to blame others for our generation cock up

Let’s hope in the now that we can somehow recover and that comes from an open minded pro European who at least is qualified to live and witness both lifestyles on all levels

Yawn
 
Those were the days
Good old Blighty Pioneers in the modern world? Hope in reflection you will see we sold out almost everything and became a very lazy self obsessed nation that has remained increasingly hungry and arrogant .

Eaten and destroyed our own culture and now we want those good old days back all this without a plan and all of this with the massive support of the EU

Instead of blaming others for our downfall I believe we should of led the EU but somehow we decided to blame others for our generation cock up

Let’s hope in the now that we can somehow recover and that comes from an open minded pro European who at least is qualified to live and witness both lifestyles on all levels

Yawn

Nope.
It's just you that sees things that way, through your anti-British tunnel vision.

Yawn.
 
Those were the days
Good old Blighty Pioneers in the modern world? Hope in reflection you will see we sold out almost everything and became a very lazy self obsessed nation that has remained increasingly hungry and arrogant .

Eaten and destroyed our own culture and now we want those good old days back all this without a plan and all of this with the massive support of the EU

Instead of blaming others for our downfall I believe we should of led the EU but somehow we decided to blame others for our generation cock up

Let’s hope in the now that we can somehow recover and that comes from an open minded pro European who at least is qualified to live and witness both lifestyles on all levels

Yawn

You need to keep out of the sun, P.
The drivel factor you spout is warped to factor 10 :)
 
Remarkable hatchet job on Corbyn in the Times today. Claim (in the news rather than the opinion section, not that this means anything in modern journalism) that not only is he a puppet of his inner circle, incapable of making a decision himself, but also his physical and mental health is failing, memory up **** creek, possibly had a small stroke. Speculation that he will stand down at the party conference and nominate Rebecca Long Bailey as his successor.

Might be true, but also highly likely that Conservative Central Office has given Murdoch a ring and told him to start slinging the **** in expectation of an election in the very near future.

Meanwhile a poll states that a majority of Tory party voters, as opposed to Tory party members, think that Hunt would make a better PM than Johnson.
 
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Remarkable hatchet job on Corbyn in the Times today. Claim (in the news rather than the opinion section, not that this means anything in modern journalism) that not only is he a puppet of his inner circle, incapable of making a decision himself, but also his physical and mental health is failing, memory up **** creek, possibly had a small stroke. Speculation that he will stand down at the party conference and nominate Rebecca Long Bailey as his successor.

Might be true, but also highly likely that Conservative Central Office has given Murdoch a ring and told him to start slinging the **** in expectation of an election in the very near future.

Meanwhile a poll states that a majority of Tory party voters, as opposed to Tory party members, think that Hunt would make a better PM than Johnson.

I believe the YouGov poll was actually of the public. It included Labour and Lib Dem voters who preferred Hunt, which makes it less relevant imo.
 
I believe the YouGov poll was actually of the public. It included Labour and Lib Dem voters who preferred Hunt, which makes it less relevant imo.
In the Times (not that that means much) it was very specifically Tory party voters, 61% thought Hunt would be a good PM, 55% Johnson. But when asked who they preferred, 48% said Johnson and 39% Hunt.

From which we can conclude that Tory voters who respond to YouGov polls have issues.

Of course the preference is probably linked to the subliminal question ‘who is most likely to deliver a fast, no deal Brexit?’ which previous polls have indicated a lot of Tory supporters and a big majority of Tory members want. It’s interesting that neither candidate actually wants No Deal, they think it is a negotiating tool.
 
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Shocking videos going around of peaceful protesters being sprayed with tear gas by the CRS while sitting down. No wonder they (the police) are hated over there and are faced with riots in a weekly basis
What a police state that country is becoming.......shame on them and their supporters
 
Shocking videos going around of peaceful protesters being sprayed with tear gas by the CRS while sitting down. No wonder they (the police) are hated over there and are faced with riots in a weekly basis
What a police state that country is becoming.......shame on them and their supporters
Where, France?

I’m amazed that anyone could be protesting in that heat. I was working in Amsterdam this week and on one day it was 33C, plenty hot enough for me. In France it’s over 40C, very dangerous to be active in.

As an aside Stainsey, in the course of your work have you ever had to administer glucagon to someone with severe hypoglycaemia?
 
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Where, France?

I’m amazed that anyone could be protesting in that heat. I was working in Amsterdam this week and on one day it was 33C, plenty hot enough for me. In France it’s over 40C, very dangerous to be active in.

As an aside Stainsey, in the course of your work have you ever had to administer glucagon to someone with severe hypoglycaemia?

Yeah in France mate, ****ing shocking.

With regards to Glucagon, we have it but try to use it as a real last resort. If the hypo is severe, much better to go straight in IV with glucose as using the Glucagon just realises the stores of Glucose in the liver and takes a long time to replenish.
Obviously not trained to do IV so if I was with an EAC instead of a Paramedic, then I’d have to go with the Glucagon.....it’s easy to administer.
Why you ask ?
 
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