Tips / Bets LGBT or ISLAM ?

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

You see yesterday I got to that very question and then he said something like I don't want to talk anymore so I respected that and left it. I suspect that's somewhere closer to the truth and the nub of it all

And I told you No I have only married once and still happily married .

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

I seem to have upset you Duncan, I thought you'd moved on from that now

I would rather parents respect their children's wishes when they are old enough to make them and not try to control them or brainwash them with their own bigoted views

Call the brown Muslim a bigot

 

[Treble]

And I told you No I have only married once and still happily married .

I believe iirc the question was "been in a relationship with" and how that had worked out for you?

 

[thefanwithnoname]

Religion should not take precedent over anything in the UK. Education comes first and if religious people of any faith get butthurt about what the schools are teaching then that's their problem to deal with. If they can't move with the times then that's their problem and nobody else's.

See I generally agree with you here. If you don't like it make alternative arrangements. So move or home school or whatever.

Where I personally disagree is making it a v religion agenda.

Now this is just my opinion here and I think 4 is too young to be taught certain things. Let kids be kids

I honestly see an agenda here from the moffat guy, the teacher. He is gay and good luck to him. But as a kid and an adult what a person in a teaching position does is their business. Coming out in assembly is no different to me than saying I am straight in assembly. Don't care really. No place for it. It's assembly

Just to put it in perspective I sent my kids to mosque when they were young. It was a sufi inclined mosque. Something I don't practise. The purpose of the mosque was to learn and read Arabic. When the imam started to force his Sufi ideals on the kids I spoke to him saying that wasn't his job. He insisted so I removed my kids. It's that simple. I still see and speak to the fella but he wasn't employed to promote Sufism.

It's complicated these days with some **** parents if I'm honest but a school should be about teaching maths, science, English etc. Stuff like sex Ed should be age appropriate and ideally a parents job. Not that simple I know

 

[thefanwithnoname]

Call the brown Muslim a bigot

How are my views bigotted?

 

[Treble]

Call the brown Muslim a bigot

Who and about what?

Idi Amin? Osama Bin Laden? The Sultan of Brunei? Yes Duncan they are all brown, they are/were all muslim and they are/were all bigots. But none of them made a point of saying **** to me on this forum so I'm sorry if I haven't mentioned it before

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

I believe iirc the question was "been in a relationship with" and how that had worked out for you?

No I was reading the Guardian and saw this story.

You clearly don't hold Fan to the same standard as non Muslims because you don't want to offend his sensibilities.

You know he's a bigot though.

 

[thefanwithnoname]

I doubt Orthodox Jews or other more extreme groups within other religions are all for it either. Seems like another excuse to have a pop at Muslims, the vast majority of whom probably don’t give a toss.

If I ever have a traumatic experience in life, I hope it doesn’t make me tar all of a particular part of society forever.

You get ****s in all walks of life. From what I am reading though there is genuine concern, across the board, about what is appropriate at what age. Some I agree with.

The focus has become lgbt

 

[Treble]

No I was reading the Guardian and saw this story.

You clearly don't hold Fan to the same standard as non Muslims because you don't want to offend his sensibilities.

You know he's a bigot though.

Just answer the question or say you won't. Why try to avoid, it's just silly Duncan and kind of reinforces my earlier point about the nub of the problem here

 

[thefanwithnoname]

Just answer the question or say you won't. Why try to avoid, it's just silly Duncan and kind of reinforces my earlier point about the nub of the problem here

Yeah but fan

 

[NSIS]

Ffs. Were you shouting this when schools started to cover race equality because of how black people suffered?

You really are a caveman when it comes to how the modern world is evolving.

Wtf are you on about?? Shouting what about race equality?? Where??

Have you been at the spliffs again?

 

[Willhoops]

You get ****s in all walks of life. From what I am reading though there is genuine concern, across the board, about what is appropriate at what age. Some I agree with.

The focus has become lgbt

I think a lot of it has been totally blown out of proportion though, from my understanding all is being done is letting kids know that some people have a mummy and daddy, some people have a daddy and daddy, etc and that’s cool too. How is that a problem? To anyone?

I think people are making it out to be something it’s not.

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

I fail to see the need for a thread of this nature.

 

[FosseFilberto]

Is it about LGBT?

Children as young as 4 being taught about sex, any sex?

It's like the Brunei issue being portrayed as a LGBT issue. Reading the law it's about any sex outside of marriage, or adultry and anal sex between hetrosexuals too

Take your first point ... bit there is still no place in the 21 st century world for a 'law' that criminalizes sexual activity between consenting adults and punishes transgression by stoning to death....

If God exists (and I'm not suggesting one way or the other) and has a problem with somebody's sex life, surely he can deal with it once they have popped their clogs and stand before him .... her ... it.

 

[FosseFilberto]

I think a lot of it has been totally blown out of proportion though, from my understanding all is being done is letting kids know that some people have a mummy and daddy, some people have a daddy and daddy, etc and that’s cool too. How is that a problem? To anyone?

I think people are making it out to be something it’s not.

... but who is letting Si's kids know that they have a twat? ... strike that ... they are bound to have worked it out

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

How are my views bigotted?

Would you be comfortable with your son marrying a homosexual?


I have asked this 3 times already as dribble will condemn your bigoted behaviour.

Unless you are Muslim of course

 

[FosseFilberto]

Would you be comfortable with your son marrying a homosexual?

Wouldn't you have to get divorced first, Si?

 

[DUNCAN DONUTS]

Hypocrisy exposed yet again of the alt left regressives

 

[Willhoops]

Hypocrisy exposed yet again of the alt left regressives

You know the alt left isn’t a thing. Also I have stated I don’t see any reason why this education isn’t acceptable.

 

[Saf]

Wtf are you on about?? Shouting what about race equality?? Where??

Have you been at the spliffs again?

No. Still no spliffs. I don't consume any mind altering substances, at all. Is the sun and alcohol going to your head?

It was quite clear what I was saying.

I was replying to your 'Just leave things alone' comment. It's an outdated thought process you have which is common with your generation through lack of understanding. White kids don't go around bullying black kids in this country no more because education has helped play a big part in different races mixing to become the norm. So, I was saying back in the day when black people were terribly abused and campaigns were trying to change things, were you screaming 'Just leave things alone' then?

There’s a stigma attached to LGBT that needs to be addressed to remove it and that starts with kids who are the future of our country. It will take time but if we start now by the time these kids grow up the stigma will be removed.