What a 24 hours!
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Whatever you have attached or linked to here doesn’t work yorkiegit.
I found this one through google:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Swindon-factory-closure-loss-3-500-jobs.html
There is a comment told to channel 4 relating to Brexit but it doesn’t refer to the plant closure.
If anything this headline implies the government’s handling of Brexit is to blame for the plant closure.
When reading anything in the Mail, proceed with extreme caution.
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The same year Boris won Politician of the year, and Ed Milliband "won" Minister to watch for.....sums it up really.
Awards ceremonies are what they are stretchy. It was recognition of a brilliant speech.
I get that she doesn't stand for anything that is important to you, but you have already stated you only look out for yourself and that's up to you. She has worked tirelessly for Hackney and for black people and minorities which is why she has a majority of 35,000.
If you, like many other people, want to form your judgement on a bad interview and not on the basis of an impressive 40 year career then that's up to you too.
I understand her getting criticism from those who are ideologically opposed to her views and work, but funnily enough if you do a Google image search for Dianne Abbot memes not many of them are about that. It's sad.
Diane Abbot is THE most obnoxious rude self opinionated b****
My wife had the misfortune of having to meet her when she was touring around the immigration removal centre that she works at and all she did was talk in soundbites and completely ignored the staff who do a tremendously difficult job.
Abbot hasn't got a bloody clue apart from playing the race and sexism card to shut down a debate. And she is bloody hypocrite too in sending her kids to fee paying schools.
Putting aside the semantics of Brexit and acknowledging the good debate on here, does anybody on here honestly have confidence and faith that this terrible, inept, vacillating government will successfully negotiate and enact beneficial trade deals that provide an improvement on our current deals? Because if they cannot do that, in today's globalised market and world, we'll be worse off.
The fact we've only managed to negotiate seven trade deals (with heavyweights like the Faroe Islands) over the past three years, and how Japan laughed us out of the negotiation room when we were making 'arrogant' demands, doesn't bode me with much confidence. And if you honestly believe that the likes of Boris, Rees-Mogg, and their cronies have the best interests of the working and middle class in question when in government and planning their post-Brexit utopia, well those people will be in for a serious disappointment based on their voting record and statements to the press.
The government clearly knows Brexit will make people worse off and the only ones who support it are those who will personally benefit from it financially or who are parroting the 'will of the people' rubbish in an attempt to justify shooting ourselves in the foot.
The fact we've only managed to negotiate seven trade deals (with heavyweights like the Faroe Islands) over the past three years, and how Japan laughed us out of the negotiation room when we were making 'arrogant' demands, doesn't bode me with much confidence. And if you honestly believe that the likes of Boris, Rees-Mogg, and their cronies have the best interests of the working and middle class in question when in government and planning their post-Brexit utopia, well those people will be in for a serious disappointment based on their voting record and statements to the press.
The government clearly knows Brexit will make people worse off and the only ones who support it are those who will personally benefit from it financially or who are parroting the 'will of the people' rubbish in an attempt to justify shooting ourselves in the foot.
It don't imply that at all, the headline is quoting one worker who is justifiably pissed off, try reading the direct quote from Honda that this closure was not anything to do with Brexit, why do you choose to ignore a direct quote?
JWM I wouldn't expect anyone working at an immigration removal centre for Dianne Abbot to particularly be their cup of tea or vice versa.
When people resign from a job Yorkiegit, they rarely list the real reasons for leaving because they want a good reference. Do you honestly believe that these closures have nothing to do with Brexit? The worker quoted in the headline, whoever they are, seems to think they do.
An immigration removal centre....
I'm confused, is that a centre where they are trying to remove and send back immigrants, or a removal company run by immigrants? (like my local car wash)
I'm confused, is that a centre where they are trying to remove and send back immigrants, or a removal company run by immigrants? (like my local car wash)
Nobody, not even the Brexiteers are saying that we are going to be better off Nuggets. Those lies that were told by leave campaigners around the time of the referendum have all long since been dismissed as such.
Just on the basis of comments here over the last couple of days Brexit is happening solely because of a dislike of immigrants.
I don't think it was that simple for most people, Hampy, including people on here. The 'sovereignty' thing seems to be the most quoted singular reason. Everyone's entitled to their opinions and the concern about the undercutting of wages by foreign workers, who in some industries will do the same job for less, is credible. However, it isn't the immigrants' fault that they work for a lower hourly rate - it should be made illegal for the company bosses to pay those wages in the first place and should be properly monitored.
When pressed, the argument about sovereignty turned out to be about control of the borders too Nuggets if you read back.
The one about 'slave labour' is not really a credible argument because we have a minimum wage that the government sets. This should be set at the Living Wage Foundation's recommendation. But if it isn't, that's up to our government.
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Hampy you really are an arse, no-one on here who cites lack of immigration controls as ONE of the reasons we voted to leave, have ever said that they have a dislike of immigrants. This is the type of comment that gets under peoples skin, anyone who has a legitimate concern over border controls are, in your eyes, a racist and that is despicable. If you cant get your point of view over without resorting to insults then that says a lot more about you than anyone else
But companies continue to flout it, most notably in the labour and manufacturing industries.
British companies breaking the law has what exactly to do with Brexit? Leaving the EU is going to erode workers' rights, not improve them.
I know that an awful lot of people don't share my opinions on humanity and I'm not judging that.
Perhaps I am inferring the word dislike, what word would you use? Or if you do like immigrants then why don't you want them to come and make a life in Britain just as British people emigrate to the US, Africa, New Zealand, Australia, Spain and the South of France?
Is it about perceived threats to places in schools, housing, benefits, jobs? Or is it just because they are not British?
Personally I can't get my head around it but my views are at the other extreme.
My point was that the undercutting of wages by companies using immigrants, often in labour and manufacturing industries, has contributed to a negative perspective on immigration that was one of the factors in why the electorate voted to leave the EU.
The concern about undercutting wages is understandable and valid, but the mistake is that most voters appeared to blame the immigrants for doing this rather than blame the relevant business bosses for choosing to ignore minimum wage legislation.