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Have you seen his record in the ko rounds?

He has a huge impact on teams and can also carry one, there's no doubt he's the ultimate big game player.

Comparing him to Kane ffs <rofl>
You say goalscorers carry games, then I say their team carry the goalscorers. His goals tonight all came from the fullbacks, superb crosses or runs.

Ronaldo will grab the headlines as the hattrick hero (I'm not questioning his ability as probably the best goalscorer of all time, that much is obvious) but my argument is more that those around him were outstanding and laid the table for him. I look for more in a player's value to the team than just how many goals he scores. It's why I prefer Messi over Ronaldo by a country mile. Full backs were the stars tonight. Ronaldo feasted on what they provided the entire game - plus their defensive contributions too.

Ronaldo has been doing that more consistently and better than anyone for the last decade though. Look how far ahead he is of all other players in CL knockout goals scored. It's not a coincidence that his statistics are so impressive. The thing is its not just as if he turned up, had 3 chances which equalled. He's relentless in the way he's always looking for space, he's always on the move and ready to take advantage of any lapse in concentration or mismatch at the back.

I dislike him as much as anyone, but if you can't appreciate his performance tonight then I don't think you are watching the right sport.

EDIT: Yeah, pretty much what Libby said.
I appreciate him for his goals and his desire to be the best. I appreciate other things more.
 
You say goalscorers carry games, then I say their team carry the goalscorers. His goals tonight all came from the fullbacks, superb crosses or runs.

Ronaldo will grab the headlines as the hattrick hero (I'm not questioning his ability as probably the best goalscorer of all time, that much is obvious) but my argument is more that those around him were outstanding and laid the table for him. I look for more in a player's value to the team than just how many goals he scores. It's why I prefer Messi over Ronaldo by a country mile. Full backs were the stars tonight. Ronaldo feasted on what they provided the entire game - plus their defensive contributions too.


I appreciate him for his goals and his desire to be the best. I appreciate other things more.

Teams carry goalscorers? It's funny how much of a drop Real have seen since Ronaldo left then, isn't it. You'd think they'd be relieved to have 11 men instead of having to carry him. Not saying its all down to him but he's a huge reason for their pathetic defence of the CL.

The thing is I understand your reasoning and maybe if he was Jermain Defoe or someone of that ilk I would tend to agree with you but Ronaldo is a different breed of goalscorer. He's probably the best goalscorer to ever play the game, to say that he is carried by his teams is pretty insulting to his contributions to his various teams over the years.
 
Teams carry goalscorers? It's funny how much of a drop Real have seen since Ronaldo left then, isn't it. You'd think they'd be relieved to have 11 men instead of having to carry him. Not saying its all down to him but he's a huge reason for their pathetic defence of the CL.

The thing is I understand your reasoning and maybe if he was Jermain Defoe or someone of that ilk I would tend to agree with you but Ronaldo is a different breed of goalscorer. He's probably the best goalscorer to ever play the game, to say that he is carried by his teams is pretty insulting to his contributions to his various teams over the years.

absolutely, his game has changed a lot to a sort of winger goalhanger as he doesnt have the pace and burst that he once had, but he can still do it all, hold up play, finish and with great movement. Where he lacks messis passing finesse and vision, he more than makes up for it by allowing players to just chuck crosses in because he's great at heading the ball and has a great leap.

This was atletico they just took apart and a big reason for that (even though madrid pack the box) is because ronaldo dominated them in the air. Still a nob though
 
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So you’re using XG to prove your point? Bit hypocritical really given you instantly dismissed it when I raised it earlier this week.
As a last resort to get it through some thick skulls that bullshit stats and made up things like XG (which people like you lap up) are not real life.
 
absolutely, his game has changed a lot to a sort of winger goalhanger as he doesnt have the pace and burst that he once had, but he can still do it all, hold up play, finish and with great movement. Where he lacks messis passing finesse and vision, he more than makes up for it by allowing players to just chuck crosses in because he's great at heading the ball and has a great leap.

This was atletico they just took apart and a big reason for that (even though madrid pack the box) is because ronaldo dominated them in the air. Still a nob though

Yep. Hate him as a person but he is a class footballer and to act as if he only played a minor part in tonight's victory is a bit far-fetched.
 
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Best player the CL has ever seen. He has 5 of them, he should have his own CL trophy and has a chance for a 6th this year. Changed his game from Winger to all round attacker and can score all types of goals. You may not like his projected arrogance, but he is some player. (I loved it when P Neville chopped him in half at Goodison)
 
Best player the CL has ever seen. He has 5 of them, he should have his own CL trophy and has a chance for a 6th this year. Changed his game from Winger to all round attacker and can score all types of goals. You may not like his projected arrogance, but he is some player. (I loved it when P Neville chopped him in half at Goodison)

ermmm the name you are.looking for is di stefano