leave her there

Read the initial reply mate. I said by saying that if we supposedly failed those who made a terrible decision, that can then be used as an excuse for all types people who’ve made terrible decisions, so as those killers, along with rapists, molesters other murderers and treason - the latter which she’s most certainly guilty of. There’s are things that for me, cannot be forgiven.

 

So on that basis, should we take fallen Protestant terrorists and pay for them to live here?

 

Nope.

I say they would do so not because I am (or need to be) a Muslim
"scholar" , but because of what I remember from my O-level in
Religious Studies, and the countless years since then of all the
good things I learnt / have been told about the great religion that is
Islam.

It feels me with joy that such a religion and nations exist who
would stand by the girl in spite of her current failings, when her
nation of birth would leave her to rot or attempt to prosecute her
for treason.

 

Was ISIS mentioned in your O Level religious studies course?

 

Loving those who cannot debate without hurling insults. At the end of the day for them it’s all about prem board cred.

 

The UK operates a version of Protestant Christianity that means such
things would not be tolerated. Sad to say we don't have the higher
moral/tolerant virtues of religions such as Islam, but there you go.

 

I would never excuse people. I just look at what has she done wrong, firstly she joined a terrorist organisation, that in itself is a criminal offence. However, I also believe in reality we shouldn't tell people how to think and 15 year old kids are very impressionable and very vulnerable people. We can never predict how people will react when they see their faith or beliefs being attacked via internet films that she admitted to accessing. Also without getting political, I still feel today that Blair should be held on war criminal charges, but we all know it will never happen, not in my lifetime anyway. I've named in this thread at least 10 examples where children were radicalised, will that ever be dealt with, no. Yet we expect a 19 year old to give us all the answers, smoke and mirrors to cover up the failings of the education system, authorities, parents and the government. Even today the Labour party is getting ripped apart by claims of anti-semetic behaviours, that's in the very corridors of our power. Yet we want to lynch a 19 year old with a new born, because for some strange reasons, it makes certain people of this country feel better.

 

Perhaps with your great understanding of Muslims and Muslim countries is their any chance any of those countries would ensure her a free house/flat and living money and free schooling for one of their own?

 

I prefer to have her guilt decided by the courts. I'm not forgetting anything.

 

Not in law she didn't.

 

However she did abandon this country. I know the law and l still don't agree with it.

 

One of the exam questions I answered was about whether
killing could be justified under the auspices of war, requiring citing
scripture from various religions to support/contest the claim.

So for Islam I discussed the edicts of murder and those of jihad.
In 1983 when the muslim world was affected by the Israel-Lebanon
and Iran-Iraq conflicts.

Is that close enough ??

 

And I prefer to **** her off.

 

Yes, they were sexually abused by adults from a young age, but you cannot name rape victims in newspapers etc, so the media could not reveal how they had been abused.

You can't report it even now I think. So people think they are monsters, they were kids who had suffered abuse themselves

 

I'd be interested in what an alternative law might look like.....it doesn't seem possible to remove citizenship unilaterally.

 

... and pepper ... seasoning is crucial

 

So would I but sometimes rights are more important than my preferences.

 

If they were versed in basic Buddhism, they would have
"right speech" in the forefront of their minds.

Oops, better be careful here (I might be accused of being /
mistaken for a Buddhist "scholar" ) .

 

Not really no. It gives no insight into how you have such a definitive understanding of how Muslim states (and Muslims in general) view people who have joined ISIS.

 

Only if someone was taking the piss out of you.