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Depends what you call a proper boxer? Pinky Thomas was a proper boxer as you see it but Tyson destroyed him. Joe Bugner was as proper as they could be as far as orthodox rules go and Ernie Shavers destroyed him. Your local lad Tony Sibson who I have met on many occasion was a total street fighter. It's boxing mate, each to their own, there is no such thing as a proper boxer in the boxing circles, maybe to armchair viewers but it's them that make the money..
I get what you are saying so I will reword my original statement - traditional boxer vs out and out fighter.Depends what you call a proper boxer? Pinky Thomas was a proper boxer as you see it but Tyson destroyed him. Joe Bugner was as proper as they could be as far as orthodox rules go and Ernie Shavers destroyed him. Your local lad Tony Sibson who I have met on many occasion was a total street fighter. It's boxing mate, each to their own, there is no such thing as a proper boxer in the boxing circles, maybe to armchair viewers but it's them that make the money..
I'm not saying that it will be a classic nor will it be something that purists will be watching for years to come but a fight between the two will be fun.
I would however call Tyson more of a boxer then a fighter - man had awesome power but his dodging skills and footwork were out of this world in his prime.
Tyson was a 100% fighter, pretty much in the same stable as Joe Frasier and Rocky Marciano. Whether you are an aggressive fighter or queensbury rules boxer, the foot movement is part of the trade, all boxers use it differently, fast hand boxers use the foot movement faster like I did. Duran, Leonard, Hagler, Bomber Graham used foot movement so differently but to the same effect. A boxer walking on to a walk on straight arm jab probably causes more damage than a right hook..
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Fair enough.Tyson was a 100% fighter, pretty much in the same stable as Joe Frasier and Rocky Marciano. Whether you are an aggressive fighter or queensbury rules boxer, the foot movement is part of the trade, all boxers use it differently, fast hand boxers use the foot movement faster like I did. Duran, Leonard, Hagler, Bomber Graham used foot movement so differently but to the same effect. A boxer walking on to a walk on straight arm jab probably causes more damage than a right hook..
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I have been using the terms fighter for someone whose primary attribute is power and boxer for someone whose primary attribute is skill but there is so much crossover that the terms are completely interchangeable if you are using my, very likely incorrect, definition.
Some of the greatest boxers mixed fighting skills with major class defence and solid jabs. Hagler was a master of it, Leonard was even better. Azumah Nelson was one of my favourite boxers of the day, his trilogy against Jeff Fenech, especially the 1st fight was some of the best masterclass boxing ever imo..
I can tell I'm a decent bit younger then you - my favourite boxer is Nassem Hamed.Some of the greatest boxers mixed fighting skills with major class defence and solid jabs. Hagler was a master of it, Leonard was even better. Azumah Nelson was one of my favourite boxers of the day, his trilogy against Jeff Fenech, especially the 1st fight was some of the best masterclass boxing ever imo..
His fight vs Kelley was one of the first ever matches I remember watching and kickstarted my fandom.
As a human he is a ****, as a boxer he was the ****.
Boxing is up against American Football, Baseball and Basketball in the US (and also "soccer"
)... not quite a minority sport but certainly light years away from those 'Big 3' in terms of the potential rewards and markets ... over here boxing is arguably second behind the footie ...
How is Breazeale so high in the rankings? He's beaten nobody. It's bizarre.
The biggest scalp on his record is Eric Molina, who's utter ****e.
The division has been ridiculously weak for a long while - we are really lucky to have Joshua, Fury and Wilder all at the same time with Whyte coming up as well.
Cue sky trying to hype fat baby up for the next 3 months to sell pay per views
Joshua within 6
Here's Miller banging out a 42-year-old light-heavyweight/cruiserweight, for anyone unfamiliar with him:
Joke fight.
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It's probably unfair to Chisora... But that's his level. AJ vs Miller will see absolutely no side to side movement at all, and I will be shocked if AJ doesn't win inside 3 rounds.
Looks like Wilder vs Fury is off with Fury signing a deal with ESPN - has already given an interview shrugging off the rematch https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/47291317
For someone who says he is not in boxing for the money, Fury is looking at a very nice payday fighting no name mooks in the future.
For someone who says he is not in boxing for the money, Fury is looking at a very nice payday fighting no name mooks in the future.
It’s not off, this will not have any affect on that deal. Venue is being discussed.