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Yeah combined with a decent manager they've got more than enough, especially as there's one place left essentially.

Plus, their next two games are home to Huddersfield and Burnley.

If we were to not beat Fulham, Newcastle could be out of sight of us quite shortly. All because of Rafa.
 
Two points dropped, yes (quite obviously). But as I said over the weekend, that survival line just continues to creep ever higher.

I think I briefly saw a stat earlier which showed that Newcastle had an identical win-lose-draw record this season compared to last season, coming into this game, yet are three places lower than last season. An illustration that avoiding 18th will be harder this time around.

Last season it was a case of sides holding the door open for each - "you can survive, no you can survive, no please you can survive" - this season, just recently it's more a case of teams taking it into their own hands. I can absolutely see 38 or 39 points being needed to stay up. Dreadful news for Fulham, bad news for the six of us above them.

Could be highly variable; there's certainly room for one team to collapse and finish on 34 points or something. Definitely not something we can count on, however.
 
Could be highly variable; there's certainly room for one team to collapse and finish on 34 points or something. Definitely not something we can count on, however.

How many were Swansea on this time last year?
 
The reason that i'm so much more hopeful of survival this season than last is the last 11 PL games (since Ralph joined) reads W 4, D 3, L 4, PTS 15
The corresponding period under Pellegrino was W 1, D 6, L 4, PTS 9
As you can see it was the same amount of games lost but look at the points total and that is all down to the outlook of the Manager, we will lose games but we are more likely to win them too and 3pts in a game are huge at this time of the season, draws just suck the life out of you.
 
Imagine we balls up the Fulham game :emoticon-0175-drunk:bandit:

We’ve gifted them three points already this season, as well as the two Cardiff debacles. Not helping ourselves are we.
 
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I thought I'd have a look at the remaining fixtures involving us, Cardiff, Newcastle, Burnley, Palace, and Brighton. In an attempt to put them into some sort of context, I've allocated points as follows:

Home vs Big Six: 0 points
Away vs Big Six: 0 points
Home vs Bottom Two: 3 points
Away vs Bottom Two: 3 points
Home vs Mid Table Six: 3 points
Away vs Mid Table Six: 1 point
Home vs Fellow Relegation Rival: 3 points
Away vs Fellow Relegation Rival: 0 points

Obviously this isn't intended to be some sort of mathematical wonder model, but using that systems leaves us with:

Newcastle 46
Brighton 44
Burnley 41
Cardiff 41
Palace 40
Saints 38

But if you strip out the head-to-head matches between the six of us, you're left with:

Cardiff 38 (from 35)
Saints 38 (from 36)
Palace 37 (from 34)
Newcastle 37 (from 34)
Brighton 35 (from 34)
Burnley 35 (from 35)

That shows, for example, that Newcastle and Brighton both have three home games (and one away) to come against the rest of us. Whereas we don't have any home games left against them.

Going back to including all games, what is almost as concerning as us coming out bottom on 38, is how things look after game 33:

Newcastle 39
Brighton 37
Burnley 37
Cardiff 35
Palace 34
Saints 28

It illustrates how difficult our next few weeks is on paper. Whereas Newcastle have a very favourable looking run during that time, and Brighton, Burnley and Cardiff all have decent looking runs.
 
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I thought I'd have a look at the remaining fixtures involving us, Cardiff, Newcastle, Burnley, Palace, and Brighton. In an attempt to put them into some sort of context, I've allocated points as follows:

Home vs Big Six: 0 points
Away vs Big Six: 0 points
Home vs Bottom Two: 3 points
Away vs Bottom Two: 3 points
Home vs Mid Table Six: 3 points
Away vs Mid Table Six: 1 point
Home vs Fellow Relegation Rival: 3 points
Away vs Fellow Relegation Rival: 0 points

Obviously this isn't intended to be some sort of mathematical wonder model, but using that systems leaves us with:

Newcastle 46
Brighton 44
Burnley 41
Cardiff 41
Palace 40
Saints 38

But if you strip out the head-to-head matches between the six of us, you're left with:

Cardiff 38 (from 35)
Saints 38 (from 36)
Palace 37 (from 34)
Newcastle 37 (from 34)
Brighton 35 (from 34)
Burnley 35 (from 35)

That shows, for example, that Newcastle and Brighton both have three home games (and one away) to come against the rest of us. Whereas we don't have any home games left against them.

Going back to including all games, what is almost as concerning as us coming out bottom on 38, is how things look after game 33:

Newcastle 39
Brighton 37
Burnley 37
Cardiff 35
Palace 34
Saints 28

It illustrates how difficult our next few weeks is on paper. Whereas Newcastle have a very favourable looking run during that time, and Brighton, Burnley and Cardiff all have decent looking runs.

<BlueInk> Thanks </BlueInk>
 
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Zaha loses appeal against extra match ban for clapping the ref...was always going to be upheld....so swapped a league game for an FA Cup game.

Sooo I thought you got an extra game ban if you appealed and the appeal failed? Otherwise you can just appeal to miss a less important game like Palace have here...so that he just misses a game he would have been rested for anyway.
 
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