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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    To be fair Paul, I’m no wine buff but some of the new world stuff seems far superior to some of the French wine I’ve drank recently.
     
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  2. DT’s Socks

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    Totally agree Staines
    I hate French cheese as well
    Give me English mature anyway
    Around me I have friends who drink large amounts of wine most of the day next day they mainly disfunctional and moan about their health etc
    I am a sunrise person up and out with a clear mind
    Life is my drug
    My posts re wine is to reflect what other posters seem to think in my example how things might be regarding how maybe the French will cope without the U.K. market ... ie revelling in a failure
    My point is that from my very small snap shot they seem to be able to diversify and plan a lot better than perhaps we could ever dream of

    I ensure the forum that this comes from a total routine of bi weekly transformation that I see and am battling still to balance out

    So much so that I returned to the U.K. on Wednesday for hospital and was due back to France on the 20th ... can’t do it even missing Tuesdays replay now as grabbed a flight last night and currently on route to Luton to get out ... crazy stuff as it will save me £300 just in work travel

    Sod the French wine growers
    I have four massive tanks in my cellars and one will shortly be a hot tub and one day I will be in it watching Our team win in the premiership week in week out
     
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  3. Sooperhoop

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    You truly have lost the plot...<laugh>
     
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  4. Stroller

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    So having successfully bribed the DUP, May is now offering bribes to Labour MPs in deprived (due to Tory austerity) Northern constituencies. If such shameless dirty politics happened in Italy we'd all be pointing fingers at their brazen corruption.
     
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    Just dreaming ahead
    The hot tub is happening anyway
     
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  6. Sooperhoop

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    Sadly, FFP has done for the Premier dream...
     
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  7. Goldhawk-Road

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    On the "under your breath" point in your long rant, your man Martyn Selmayr (he of the prominent Nazi family and known at the monster because of the way he deals with people) said that losing Northern Ireland was the price the UK must pay for seeking to leave the EU. Selmayr is now apparently heading up the EU side of the negotiations, having been sponsored by his mentor, Juncker. It's all by appointment, not by election - classically EU.

    The Brexit negotiations have been conducted disasterously, because May, a Remainer, never believed in what she was doing and her servant, Robbins was an unapologetic fan of the EU.

    I just want to see this finished now. If it's no deal, so be it. Get it done.
     
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    Agreed let’s get it done
    Bollocks to Brexit then we can have a good duff up about the effects
     
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  9. Star of David Bardsley

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    What’s the rush? I’m guessing you’re someone who would be less adversely affected by a “just get it done” no deal than most.
     
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  10. Goldhawk-Road

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    If there's an extension for a few weeks, fine. If the backstop is time limited, and we enter a May's deal, fine. But short of these, it's not Brexit.
     
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    Will the people you want to replace Olly Robbins be elected?
     
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  12. Goldhawk-Road

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    I have no problem with Robbins not being elected because, as I have said, he was the servant of an elected politician. Have a look at puppet-master Selmayr. Increasingly, he runs the Commission.
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    Yes, it is. The ballot said nothing about Goldie’s preferred version of Brexit.
     
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  14. Goldhawk-Road

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    If we stay in the Customs Union and Single Market, we may as well stay in the EU. Which of course, a lot of Remainers would like. But both Tory and Labour MP's from Leave majority constituencies know they'll lose their job at the next GE if it happens
     
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    It’s not really their fault that people are keen to shoot their own feet off. The plebs will largely vote the same way they always have without even checking the name on the sheet. Most people would still vote blue or red if it meant voting for Ted Bundy. Again though, it was a vote to leave the EU. No more and no less.
     
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    Slightly arrogant language, Watford! Before the referendum, there was a huge move from blue and red towards UKIP. I recall that UKIP got 4 million votes in the GE. Since then, the move has been away from UKIP due to expectancy that the referendum result will be respected. But if it's not, there'd be a massive move towards UKIP or similar right wing parties imo. Strolls will probably say, bring it on, but that's what would happen
     
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  17. Star of David Bardsley

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    I agree. Bring it on if that’s what “the people” want. Politicians should still act in their constituents’ best interests rather than blindly obeying their wishes.
     
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    Not when Parliament has given the people the vote on an issue and the prime minister at the time said the result would be honoured. I believe that most MP's accept that now, and there are stop afoot to deselect those that don't, like Grieve, Soubry and Umunna
     
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  19. Star of David Bardsley

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    It is being honoured though. Just not in the way you want.
     
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  20. Stroller

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    Hardly anyone would give a **** about a permanent Customs Union, or some other such outcome that you would call BRINO. All the Kippers cared about was immigration. As long as free movement is stopped, they'll have got their way.
     
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