Off Topic The Politics Thread

Unlike you, oh that’s right you are the all seeing great Oz and you haven’t made anything at all up, because being our resident europhile genius everything you say MUST be taken as gospel, well here’s a fun thought, have you ever actually considered that you could be wrong and we are in actual fact right,
Oh hang on that can’t possibly be correct cause we’re all blue sheep and stupid and brexiteer scum ruining your future according to you.
Not so much James Bond “the man with the golden gun”
As DT “ the man who is never wrong”

 

Typical DT crap, never mind as I’m setting up a similar charity to help remoaners like yourself,
It’s basically a service to help you all remove your heads from up your own arses and to see the bright EU free future ahead, unfortunately it won’t be able to help you as your head is so far up you are on the verge of turning inside out.

 

How far ahead? Sooner than Moggo’s fifty year forecast?

 

My point exactly. Who has a plan?

 

Too much focus on the exit balls up and still not one plan from a Brexiteer

Fat Europeans and wine cellars plus a bit this massive amount of spare money with promises to invest ... After the last two years anyone trust this lot to spend it wisely ?
I wouldn’t trust a conversative with my comb

 

Come to think of it I wouldn’t trust myself

 

Well he was on Italy as others were.

 

Shame on him and others

 

The EU would be lucky to last 5 years let alone 50. The whole thing doesn't work out. The EU is Europes next failed empire....On that note.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...u-is-looking-like-europe-s-next-failed-empire
You have Germany making all the money and heading into recession. Italy in Recession. Mass immigration problems, Millions of Young people in souther Europe have no jobs or prospects. The UK leaving.
But the biggest reason why it will fail is because...
It's undemocratic and they don't listen.

 

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Can you imagine waiting 50 years to see any form of benefits!! Most of us won't be around to see if he was even correct. Then again this comes from the guy who said a 2nd referendum would be a good idea especially after an agreement was made.

 

Champagne? England invented it by mistake
Valentine Low
January 31 2019, 12:01am, The Times

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The English may have created champagne by allowing still white wine to get so cold it became carbonated, a producer has suggestedALAMY
Other than berets and garlic, there are few things more quintessentially French than champagne. Even the name itself is fiercely protected.
Now, however, the head of one of France’s leading champagne houses has stirred up the long-running debate about its origins by saying that the drink was invented by the English.
Pierre-Emmanuel Taittinger, head of the family producer of the same name and a well-known Anglophile, made the claim in an interview with Le Figaro. However, he could not resist a backhanded compliment: yes, the English may have invented champagne, but they did so by accident.
“I love England, it’s a big market for bubbles. They love champagne,” Mr Taittinger, 65, said.
“They created champagne because of a mistake. Benedictine monks were supplying them with…
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Don’t tell dt

 

I 'm sure the EU is aware of how fragile their position is, cracks are appearing in their alleged unanimous agreement as the weakness of so many of their economies is starting to bite. A fact is the UK economy is the equivalent of the economies of the 19 smallest member States, the larger Mediterranean countries are on the brink and they won't be able to rinse us financially any more.

Euro elections this year are likely to see several countries swinging towards extreme right wing parties which is the last thing they need in their own parliament. That might be just the thing that will bring about a change in border controls we had requested pre-referendum, however, it may prove too late if we have already left...

 

numbers down
bloody shamefull that theres anyone living on the streets
how much money is collected to help the homeless
i read somewhere that there are 200 charities in london alone supposedly helping the homeless

Homeless on streets: Figures fall but 'root causes' remain

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There were 4,677 people sleeping rough in England in autumn 2018, according to official estimates.
The figure represents a slight fall of 74 on 2017, however rises were recorded in London, the Midlands, north-east and Yorkshire and the Humber.
Numbers are still up 2,909 since the start of the decade, with charities calling for "fundamental action to tackle the root causes".
The government has pledged £100m over two years to tackle rough sleeping.
It will trial schemes in Greater Manchester, Merseyside and the West Midlands where people are given housing without first being required to give up drugs or alcohol, a model which has been hailed a success in Finland.
The figures are only a single night snapshot, with councils either counting or estimating the number of rough sleepers.
London saw an increase from 1,137 to 1,283.
Birmingham went from 57 rough sleepers in 2017 to 91. Manchester's figure increased from 94 to 123.
However Brighton and Hove, which had one of the highest rates of rough sleeping in previous years, dropped from 178 to 64.
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Rough sleepers in England, per 10,000 households
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Charities said that despite the slight overall drop, rough sleeping had "rocketed" by 165% since 2010.
Polly Neate, chief executive of Shelter, said: "The combination of spiralling rents, a faulty benefits system and lack of social housing means the number of people forced to sleep rough has risen dramatically since 2010.
"We welcome many of the things which the government has been doing to seek to improve services for rough sleepers, and numbers do now seem to be stabilising which is a rare piece of good news, but without fundamental action to tackle the root causes of homelessness these measures will only achieve so much."

• Homeless people's deaths up 24% over five years
• Homeless man found dead in Birmingham
• £100m plan to tackle homelessness unveiled

Chief executive of Crisis, Jon Sparkes said: "It's a damning reflection of our society that night after night, so many people are forced to sleep rough on our streets, with numbers soaring in the capital."
Rough sleeping across England
Number of people bedding down outside per 10,000 households
Source: Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government

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'My girlfriend is worried about me every day'

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Image caption James Turner from Sheldon has described life on the street as "desperate"
While the overall number of rough sleepers in England has fallen slightly, in Birmingham it increased 60% in the past year.
A homeless man, Kane Walker, died on the street at the weekend.
James Turner, 41, from Sheldon has been on the streets since June 2018.
He became homeless after he was released from prison, where he had served nine months for assault, and found he was £5,000 in arrears on his house. The day after he returned home from prison, bailiffs came round. He was evicted a short time later.
"They took two grand's worth of leather sofas, my TV, everything.
"I tried to get into a hostel yesterday but they had no space, it was completely packed. They said I could sleep on the floor by the door, I said 'no thanks, I'd rather be on the street'.
"So that's why I'm out here.
"I was found a place in Erdington but when me and my girlfriend got there, there were men there who thought we were someone else and beat us both up, so we left.
"My girlfriend is worried about me every day. She's staying with friends but there's only a single bed and no room for me.
"I don't want to go into hostels. They're full of drug addicts. I'm not on drugs anymore, I don't want to be around all that."

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Image caption Lewis has seen a rise in the number of people on the streets like him
Lewis, aged 29, said he was kicked out of his family home six years ago due to crime and a drug-related lifestyle.
"I just messed up", he said.
"People in Birmingham are really helpful," he said. "I get a lot of hot drinks and that. At the end of the day, Greggs give all of their stuff they haven't sold to outreach workers who give it to us.
"For the life I want to live, I just need money, I need a nine to five, I'm looking for work.
"The number of people on the streets has definitely increased. This time of year it goes up."

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When you can't see inside a tent, it makes counting homeless numbers that bit harder, Michael Buchanan explains
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Analysis by BBC Reality Check
The official number of rough sleepers published each year by the government does not tell the whole story.
It comes from information collected once a year by local councils. In England councils choose one night in October or November to carry out a street count - they will physically go out and count the people they see sleeping rough on streets in tents or doorways.
Some councils choose instead to make an estimate based on how many people are known to local services like homelessness charities - for example, in rural areas where it may be more difficult to physically count people.
That means anyone who they don't spot - and many homeless people choose to hide themselves for their own safety - or anyone who spends that night walking around, on a night bus or sofa surfing won't be counted.
It also doesn't include anyone staying that night in a hostel or shelter.
There are many more people who are homeless but don't sleep rough, staying instead in temporary accommodation like bed and breakfasts.

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Despite the slight drop in the official estimate, Local Government Association housing spokesman councillor Martin Tett, said it was becoming "increasingly difficult" for councils to prevent homelessness and rough sleeping from happening as they faced a "funding gap" of more than £100m in 2019-20.
Communities Secretary James Brokenshire said the figures were "a step in the right direction" but the government was aiming to eliminate rough sleeping by 2027.
"I am clear we need to go further than ever before to build upon today's results and sustain momentum as we move towards ending rough sleeping," he said.
Of the £100m promised by the government to tackle rough sleeping, about £30m will go on mental health help and treatment for substance misuse. The government is putting £50m towards homes outside London for people ready to move on from hostels or refuges.
Councils have so far used new funding to create an additional 1,750 shelter beds and provide 500 rough sleeping support staff, Mr Brokenshire said.

 

Good grief I am not sure now you have seen the world what sort of man are you? Surely there can’t be more Ellers ?

 

Agree can’t even look after our own but the problem is may worse than this lot and guess what nothing will be done ... absolutely nothing

 

Can’t stand the stuff plus never drink wine in fact can’t remember when I drunk any alcoholic drink must be a few years now

In fact
I no longer take any drugs or alcohol

I only drink water direct from the source in my hamlet now ... laugh if you wish but I can ensure anyone it’s the most transformed thing a human can do

3-5 litres a day

When I am in the U.K no water from plastic if I can help it

 

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