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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
On the money totally Stan yet on here posts are being made on a day to day hour by hour basis as if this hasn’t been accepted . Anyone who even mildly supports May is stupid ... plain dumb imo

This is what makes me cross when Ellers etc starts on with his coward French gear etc

The EU has conducted themselves in a far more productive and professional manner imo yet what comes first after all of this? They are bullies etc etc

It’s their fault
Exactly but it's all the EU's fault
 
I believe it's like the third time in ten years that Italy has gone into recession? Don't take my word on that, I just think it is. They really are becoming a basket case. This will hit the Euro big time if things don't get sorted quickly.
I also notice car sales/growth here is not good either. Some tough times ahead.... and we can't blame it all on Brexit, although some will.
 
I have been saying this for a long time and was told on here by our 'financial experts' that I was talking crap... Well guess what chaps.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...rices-brexit-eurozone-gdp-italy-business-live
This will hit the Eurozone big time and TBH it will be a good time to leave the 'Disaster Zone'. Germany will be next followed by a few more.
No wonder they were so desperate for our money.

What? So you believe in a way that the EU will collapse after we leave ... even revelling in it ?
Is that being English ?
Maybe in the 1950s
You need to lose that brainwashed crap mate it’s 2019 so grow up
 
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I think that's the crux of it. No plans or ideas from any brextremeists! Just leave
That's what I have been think recently. I really see a no deal now or some sort of 2 year free trade (nothing changes) until someone comes up with something. I also see Hunt and Leadsom talking about a short extension but that will only put more pressure on the EU.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47069433
 
I believe it's like the third time in ten years that Italy has gone into recession? Don't take my word on that, I just think it is. They really are becoming a basket case. This will hit the Euro big time if things don't get sorted quickly.
I also notice car sales/growth here is not good either. Some tough times ahead.... and we can't blame it all on Brexit, although some will.
Well I'm pretty sure that the uncertainty surrounding brexit isn't helping matters over here. I just thank God that austerity is over............Oh best mention that to some of the local councils around my area as more cuts are happening.
 
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That's what I have been think recently. I really see a no deal now or some sort of 2 year free trade (nothing changes) until someone comes up with something. I also see Hunt and Leadsom talking about a short extension but that will only put more pressure on the EU.
You see this is where I disagree. It's US that are under pressure. Where are the plans for a leave no deal, apart from stock piling foods and medicines and preparation for delays. Ooh it will be so good
 
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I believe it's like the third time in ten years that Italy has gone into recession? Don't take my word on that, I just think it is. They really are becoming a basket case. This will hit the Euro big time if things don't get sorted quickly.
I also notice car sales/growth here is not good either. Some tough times ahead.... and we can't blame it all on Brexit, although some will.

Any hard times my fellow countrymen may feel in the future is your responsibility mate and I hope you accept that . The damage Brexit will cause will be dreadful for the U.K. and half the nation always knew this . Still we can all laugh at Europe as they implode

A Brexiteer in five years time could be looked upon as complete fool and I am betting you find anyone who would own up to it .
 
You see this is where I disagree. It's US that are under pressure. Where are the plans for a leave no deal, apart from stock piling foods and medicines and preparation for delays. Ooh it will be so good
You believe too much of project fear fella. Take a deep breath and ask yourself a simple question do you think business on the EU side is going to shot itself in the foot and not sell us the goods? It's the biggest load of crap i have heard in this whole Brexit thing.
Take France... The country was brought to its knees recently by the yellow vests and Macron did the usual French thing and surrendered. That country is brought up on strikes and demonstrations.. any excuse not to work. Just imagine telling all those farmers that their produce is getting held up and the UK has gone elsewhere? Same with the rest of the EU countries that deal with us.
Only reason for stock pilling is because the remoaners putting out this crap. Be one of them bob start stocking up on pepper and olive oil and lettuce <laugh>. Let the DT's of this world convince you that armagedon is approaching while us sensible folk get on with life.
 
You believe too much of project fear fella. Take a deep breath and ask yourself a simple question do you think business on the EU side is going to shot itself in the foot and not sell us the goods? It's the biggest load of crap i have heard in this whole Brexit thing.
Take France... The country was brought to its knees recently by the yellow vests and Macron did the usual French thing and surrendered. That country is brought up on strikes and demonstrations.. any excuse not to work. Just imagine telling all those farmers that their produce is getting held up and the UK has gone elsewhere? Same with the rest of the EU countries that deal with us.
Only reason for stock pilling is because the remoaners putting out this crap. Be one of them bob start stocking up on pepper and olive oil and lettuce <laugh>. Let the DT's of this world convince you that armagedon is approaching while us sensible folk get on with life.
It's not about selling us goods Ellers, it's about supply and chains. You bury your head in the sand if you like, that's your choice. You joke about these things that are actually happening as if enjoying it all, which is very perverse in my opinion.
 
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You joke about these things that are actually happening as if enjoying it all, which is very perverse in my opinion.
Oh dear don't try that one bob.
You go on about homeless, food banks, poverty but it happens. You seem to be okay, you go to QPR away games probably a season ticket holder like me.
Sadly **** happens in life but blaming the government for everything is wide of the mark. The tories don't make people get divorced or get into gambling or have health/mental health issues or fallen on hard times. These are the major reasons for food banks. You neglected to mention Labour and food banks? Do yourself a favour, go and research it before you start preaching your ill-informed rubbish. Or maybe get down to a food bank or charity and volunteer like I have. For five years I raised money to help people in need. I gave up QPR games and time with my family to help out. So before you start making assumptions about people you should know your facts.
 
Without Europe we a very weak logistical structure

Together with Europe we have built a supply chain that works ... well just about here and like clockwork in Europe. We close our gates for just a day and it takes 12 working days to clear it back to near breaking point it was.

Yes as a remainer I understand that new roads and links can be built to ensure a similar flow of goods but ... seriously anyone on here have any faith we can do that? We may have some money but I can easier you we do not have the skill set nor the training to do so ... We would need to buy in all of that resource from where ? Europe

We are no longer great engineers without Europe so please wake up

Study it see what we buy in just in your own homes ...

Example Christ we don’t even make our own plasterboard anymore that surrounds us all ... think it’s British gypsum? ... it’s French! with imported gypsum from Portugal but to be fair they found a new seem under my old farm in East Sussex enough for 75 years ... great news except the French have already seen a opportunity to move production to France and then charge what they like to the U.K. building trade

Plasterboard products could go up to levels most wont be able to comprehend

We have a nation with average household debt rising because unlike the experiences I see in Europe through friends we Brits are unable to stop spending .

You take away things from the self obsessed then no surprise if you get a reaction and it will be some reaction
 
Oh dear don't try that one bob.
You go on about homeless, food banks, poverty but it happens. You seem to be okay, you go to QPR away games probably a season ticket holder like me.
Sadly **** happens in life but blaming the government for everything is wide of the mark. The tories don't make people get divorced or get into gambling or have health/mental health issues or fallen on hard times. These are the major reasons for food banks. You neglected to mention Labour and food banks? Do yourself a favour, go and research it before you start preaching your ill-informed rubbish. Or maybe get down to a food bank or charity and volunteer like I have. For five years I raised money to help people in need. I gave up QPR games and time with my family to help out. So before you start making assumptions about people you should know your facts.

I haven’t been to game recently because I am setting up a new charity to help sufferers from post brexiteer syndrome... it’s similar to dementia
 
Oh dear don't try that one bob.
You go on about homeless, food banks, poverty but it happens. You seem to be okay, you go to QPR away games probably a season ticket holder like me.
Sadly **** happens in life but blaming the government for everything is wide of the mark. The tories don't make people get divorced or get into gambling or have health/mental health issues or fallen on hard times. These are the major reasons for food banks. You neglected to mention Labour and food banks? Do yourself a favour, go and research it before you start preaching your ill-informed rubbish. Or maybe get down to a food bank or charity and volunteer like I have. For five years I raised money to help people in need. I gave up QPR games and time with my family to help out. So before you start making assumptions about people you should know your facts.
Not a season ticket holder due to my location. I give weekly to our local food bank through a charitable organisation local to myself. I raised over £6000 in 2017 for charity and over £9000 last year. I do my bit fella. I'm by no means well off and never will be, but health and happiness come before wealth in my book. As you say we are the world's 5th best economy. Shocking really isn't it? You know very little about a lot Ellers, that's not my fault or anyone else's. Thank god Goldy is on this forum, someone whom has similar stances to yourself but can debate without lowering himself to your standards or condescending nature. Open your eyes man, see the country that you live in, it's made for the rich to get richer which seems to be a typical Tory policy!
 
Not a season ticket holder due to my location. I give weekly to our local food bank through a charitable organisation local to myself. I raised over £6000 in 2017 for charity and over £9000 last year. I do my bit fella. I'm by no means well off and never will be, but health and happiness come before wealth in my book. As you say we are the world's 5th best economy. Shocking really isn't it? You know very little about a lot Ellers, that's not my fault or anyone else's. Thank god Goldy is on this forum, someone whom has similar stances to yourself but can debate without lowering himself to your standards or condescending nature. Open your eyes man, see the country that you live in, it's made for the rich to get richer which seems to be a typical Tory policy!
mmm I seem to recall you saying on post 27373
You joke about these things that are actually happening as if enjoying it all, which is very perverse in my opinion.
So don't preach about lowering standards because you have none. Actually it is you who seems to know very little other than your Tory bashing. Maybe you should not worry about replying to my posts and talk with your Euro fanatics, because to be honest bob all you ever do is moan about the Tories.... it's boring fella. Cheers
 
mmm I seem to recall you saying on post 27373

So don't preach about lowering standards because you have none. Actually it is you who seems to know very little other than your Tory bashing. Maybe you should not worry about replying to my posts and talk with your Euro fanatics, because to be honest bob all you ever do is moan about the Tories.... it's boring fella. Cheers
Just as you moan about the EU really. If you can't handle it mate, that's not my problem. You do honestly seem to revel in a no deal scenario and that's absolutely fine, I think it's a bit cuckoo but there you go. Calm yourself down and take a breath Ellers.
 
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