Is he? I mean I doubt there are a high percentage of footballers who are good guys. Most seem like young rich arseholes.
Shelvey away?
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Is he? I mean I doubt there are a high percentage of footballers who are good guys. Most seem like young rich arseholes.
Think I'd rather keep Shelvey than have Cairney. People have short memories, he was fantastic back end of last season and most of our fans thought he deserved to go to the World Cup. Put a curtain round Diame and shoot him like they do to horses and give Ki and Shelvey a go
Newcastle manager Rafael Benitez says there is "no chance" the club will sell midfielder Jonjo Shelvey, 26, in January, amid rumours of a swap deal involving Fulham midfielder Tom Cairney, 27. (Guardian)
Damn
Damn
The repeatedly kicking people and the alleged (IMHO most likely to have occurred) racist incident. The petulance. The not giving a **** if he doesn't get his own way.
You say most seem like young rich arseholes but think that is in the 0.01% of footballers
You seem to be reading a lot into things, and unless you also condemn Joey Barton, Woodgate, Bowyer etc etc then it's hardly going to be a consistent view point. Where does it end, if ever, with regards looking at past indiscretions?
In the context of the team, we have played most of our best football in the last few seasons with him on the pitch, so I just think you have set your stall against him.
"Petulance" for instance, is the equivalent criticism "no plan B" that fans level at managers. It's just shibboleth for you personally being sick of him, sick of losing, and will be happy when he is gone, even though you know the team will keep on losing.
On a side note have you seen the points that we have gained with Schar on the pitch compared to not. Apparently it’s something like 1.75 points on average per game compared 0.25 points on average when he doesn’t play.
I would definitely keep him. He is one of teh few game changers we have.
Can’t agree. We have quite a few game changers in the squad.
Have you forgotten how Joselu can change a game in the balance when he comes on to a certain loss? Have you overlooked how Manquillo can alter a steady defensive performance when he comes on to a shaky nervous panic? Are you overlooking how Hayden has the ability to make the opposition midfield look World Class?
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Not to mention how Perez can turn attack into constant defending with his unrivalled ability to fall over/raise hands/look aghast.
I never wanted any of the 3 you mentioned again for the same reasons.
I am all for giving people chances but how many did he need? He's in his mid 20's not late teens. The only thing that went in his favour in my eyes was him getting anger management support (hopefully it was him who initiated that and not someone at the club).
Not sure what you think I am reading into? The petualnce? The losing his rag and leaving us with 10 men - if that was Mitro he would have been lynched by Rafa by now. His alleged act of racism?
I maybe wrong, but I see us as a family club and people like this should not be playing a part.
Where does it end? When he leaves. Simples.
The swap with Cairney appears to have gone cold. Cairney had one of his better games yesterday and is still the club captain. Whether you deserved the points yesterday I don't know - what I do know is that Shelvey cost you the game, his tracking back was non existent - and he knew it! his body language said it all. Being charitable,perhaps he was short of game time and his reactions seemed slow. Perhaps he will redeem himself when you play United - he will need to ,United looked pretty tasty today!
Shar and Dubravka apparently had a go at Shelvey on the pitch after they scored and he just turned around and walked off casually.. showing no emotion...
