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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Did you here the news today Goldie. They hate him in France and said he won't get a second term...so much for his Euro dream? Agree with him and heir Merkel gone the EU may need to change direction.
Many states have been saying they are unhappy with the direction and most seem to have issues.
I wonder if the whole thing collapsed how would our EU fans react?

With sadness. It’s a far from perfect but overall praiseworthy project, whether or not the UK is in it.

If the centralising/federalising direction is changed that doesn’t necessarily mean it will collapse.

I'd love to get back to a common market, sovereign nations trading withe ease and good will, and close cooperation on stuff like research snd security
 
The last thing I'd do if my father in law worked in the intelligence services is tell a bunch of strangers on an internet forum, anonymous username or otherwise!

I suppose posters think it’s all a bit Tinker Tailor ?
I can guarantee you that very few would of heard of the OSs used never mind have any idea be a ny sort of threat from the public domain
I also have a friend who works for the EU
My cousin is currently killing people as a mercenary after a few tours for our country
 
Very strange to mention this at all.plus, if it's true, I'm certain he would agree with what I've said.



I never said our security services train anyone and they are indeed stretched.
The training I referred to was by our SF, who's SOPs are replicated around the World.

Third world maybe but your perception of is very very dated as said I prefer to stick to what I actually trust is true

Not a chance he would agree with you imo

In truth when topics arise it’s boredom that shines through on top however he does have a wonderful sense of saying what will happen next and 9/10 times it does ... well how things are delivered via the media

Industrial Espionage has been the biggest thing in the last 15 years
 
I don't believe much that any politician says, whether they be English, Irish, French ,German etc etc. Isn't it strange how we as the public can pick bits of what people say and choose to believe them yet shoot others down straight away. We are in a mess due to politicians. They lie and lie over and over yet some believe what they want to.

Puppets Bob nothing more
 
Did you here the news today Goldie. They hate him in France and said he won't get a second term...so much for his Euro dream? Agree with him and heir Merkel gone the EU may need to change direction.
Many states have been saying they are unhappy with the direction and most seem to have issues.
I wonder if the whole thing collapsed how would our EU fans react?

Well done UK they have broken the EU
The EU will reform of course it will what do you think Brexit is about ? It should be clear by now ?

Macron is toast agree with that but France needs reform maybe in a different way and quickly

French politicians in the end have to work for the people or they soon know about it . Can you say the same about the UK ... never will come close to the passion and commitment the French public show the world when they are unhappy

Copy and pasting UK news won’t do much for your education ... look at your posts and the names you choose to use against our Europeans friends ... disgusting imo
 
Britain in 2018.

In lovely middle class Leamington Spa last night my son and a (black) mate were on the way to another mates to watch the Fury fight when they were attacked by six white men. One of them bit half of my son’s ear off, saying ‘that’s for having ******s for friends’. Also, of course, they were robbed. Anaesthetised by booze and Adrenalin the lads went on to see the fight only to realise how damaged they were when they sobered up.

Both lads spent most of the day in Warwick A&E, with broken ribs and his mate has a broken nose. After which the lad turned up at our place, because his phone was smashed in the fracas. Now we have to take the boy to Coventry A&E as the plastic surgeons want to see him urgently. The fact that I will miss the Alabama 3 gig tonight is of no importance, compared to the impotent fury I feel. My son is no stranger to trouble and injury, but was entirely innocent for this one. He is in shock because he is not used to being beaten up but relieved that no knives were involved. FFS.

I feel sick, but at least I know what a hate crime really is now.
 
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Britain in 2018.

In lovely middle class Leamington Spa last night my son and a (black) mate were on the way to another mates to watch the Fury fight when they were attacked by six white men. One of them bit half of my son’s ear off, saying ‘that’s for having ******s for friends’. Also, of course, they were robbed. Anaesthetised by booze and Adrenalin the lads went on to see the fight only to realise how damaged they were when they sobered up.

Both lads spent most of the day in Warwick A&E, with broken ribs and his mate has a broken nose. After which the lad turned up at our place, because his phone was smashed in the fracas. Now we have to take the boy to Coventry A&E as the plastic surgeons want to see him urgently. The fact that I will miss the Alabama 3 gig tonight is of no importance, compared to the impotent fury I feel. My son is no stranger to trouble and injury, but was entirely innocent for this one. He is in shock because he is not used to being beaten up but relieved that no knives were involved. FFS.

I feel sick, but at least I know what a hate crime really is now.

Truly awful - hope all's well with your son. Unlikely that the culprits will ever be caught, or charged if they are, which only makes it worse - total ****s. Think I'd be trawling the streets with a baseball bat if it happened here.
 
wait till they discover rap

Radio station stops playing "Baby It's Cold Outside" after listeners voice concerns about lyrics in [HASHTAG]#MeToo[/HASHTAG] era
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"Baby It's Cold Outside" has been around since the 1940s, but in today's "Me Too" era, a Cleveland radio station has decided to stop playing the song that some have called "date-rapey."
"Neptune's Daughter" (1949)
A Cleveland radio station has stopped playing a popular Christmas song that's been around since the 1940s, CBS Cleveland affiliate WOIO-TV reports. Star 102 Cleveland listeners raised concerns about the lyrics of the song "Baby It's Cold Outside," with some saying the words send the wrong message in the era of the [HASHTAG]#MeToo[/HASHTAG] movement.
Radio host Glenn Anderson wrote a blog post about the station's decision to stop playing the song. "We used to play the song 'Baby It's Cold Outside,' but you're the Christmas Executive Officer at Star 102 and you told us it's no longer appropriate," Anderson wrote Tuesday. "I gotta be honest, I didn't understand why the lyrics were so bad ... Until I read them."
The song is a duet between a man and a woman. The woman makes it clear she is worried about being with the man late into the night, while he adamantly tells her to say with him because, "Baby, it's cold outside."
Anderson shared the song's lyrics, which include lines like: "Say, what's in this drink?", "I really can't stay / Baby don't hold out" and "I ought to say no, no, no / Mind if I move in closer?" The woman also wonders aloud what others might think of her if she stays.
Written in 1944, the song rose to popularity in the 1949 film "Neptune's Daughter." It was sung between Esther Williams and Ricardo Montalbán's characters, and then by Betty Garrett and Red Skelton, who reversed the roles.
The song was written by popular Broadway composer Frank Loesser, who originally performed it as a humorous number with his wife. But the lyrics, in today's context, have taken on somewhat more sinister connotations. After the "Me Too" movement gained momentum in 2017, more women have been speaking out about sexual harassment and assault, and society has become more aware than ever of how widespread the problem really is. The suggestive lines in the song now drum up images of men like Harvey Weinstein, who's been accused of preventing women from leaving hotel rooms, and Bill Cosby, who was convicted of drugging and sexual assaulting a woman.
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Esther Williams and Ricardo Montalbán's perform "Baby It's Cold Outside in the 1949 film "Neptune's Daughter"
"Neptune's Daughter" (1949)
Criticism of the lyrics in "Baby It's Cold Outside" actually has been building for several years. Some Twitter users called out the "date-rapey" undertones of the song in 2013, and a number of publications have run articles questioning the song's meaning.
In 2014, Idina Menzel and Michael Bublé released a duet of the song and changed a few lyrics to be more family-friendly, with lines like, "Maybe just a soda-pop more / Put some records on while I pour." They also had child actors playing the roles of the couple in the music video.
Idina Menzel & Michael Bublé - Baby It's Cold Outside by Idina Menzel on YouTube
In his blog post, Anderson said the song has no place on today's radio, but also asked listeners what they think and included an online poll question about it.
"Now, I do realize that when the song was written in 1944, it was a different time, but now while reading it, it seems very manipulative and wrong," Anderson wrote. "The world we live in is extra sensitive now, and people get easily offended, but in a world where [HASHTAG]#MeToo[/HASHTAG] has finally given women the voice they deserve, the song has no place. What do you think?" The results of the poll are not visible on Star 102's website.
 
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Britain in 2018.

In lovely middle class Leamington Spa last night my son and a (black) mate were on the way to another mates to watch the Fury fight when they were attacked by six white men. One of them bit half of my son’s ear off, saying ‘that’s for having ******s for friends’. Also, of course, they were robbed. Anaesthetised by booze and Adrenalin the lads went on to see the fight only to realise how damaged they were when they sobered up.

Both lads spent most of the day in Warwick A&E, with broken ribs and his mate has a broken nose. After which the lad turned up at our place, because his phone was smashed in the fracas. Now we have to take the boy to Coventry A&E as the plastic surgeons want to see him urgently. The fact that I will miss the Alabama 3 gig tonight is of no importance, compared to the impotent fury I feel. My son is no stranger to trouble and injury, but was entirely innocent for this one. He is in shock because he is not used to being beaten up but relieved that no knives were involved. FFS.

I feel sick, but at least I know what a hate crime really is now.
Racist sickos. Hope the 6 get locked up quick and for a long time, but guess there is little chance of that. Hope your son and his mate recover quick.
 
Britain in 2018.

In lovely middle class Leamington Spa last night my son and a (black) mate were on the way to another mates to watch the Fury fight when they were attacked by six white men. One of them bit half of my son’s ear off, saying ‘that’s for having ******s for friends’. Also, of course, they were robbed. Anaesthetised by booze and Adrenalin the lads went on to see the fight only to realise how damaged they were when they sobered up.

Both lads spent most of the day in Warwick A&E, with broken ribs and his mate has a broken nose. After which the lad turned up at our place, because his phone was smashed in the fracas. Now we have to take the boy to Coventry A&E as the plastic surgeons want to see him urgently. The fact that I will miss the Alabama 3 gig tonight is of no importance, compared to the impotent fury I feel. My son is no stranger to trouble and injury, but was entirely innocent for this one. He is in shock because he is not used to being beaten up but relieved that no knives were involved. FFS.

I feel sick, but at least I know what a hate crime really is now.

For ****'s sake mate. So sorry to hear that.
What utter ****s there are about eh?
Hope your son fully recovers from such a **** ordeal.
All the best G.
 
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Third world maybe but your perception of is very very dated as said I prefer to stick to what I actually trust is true

Not a chance he would agree with you imo

In truth when topics arise it’s boredom that shines through on top however he does have a wonderful sense of saying what will happen next and 9/10 times it does ... well how things are delivered via the media

Industrial Espionage has been the biggest thing in the last 15 years

If you're referring to our special forces training and having their methods adopted only in the third world, you are 100% incorrect.
So your father in law works for the security services and believes them to be third rate? Is that what you're saying?
 
Britain in 2018.

In lovely middle class Leamington Spa last night my son and a (black) mate were on the way to another mates to watch the Fury fight when they were attacked by six white men. One of them bit half of my son’s ear off, saying ‘that’s for having ******s for friends’. Also, of course, they were robbed. Anaesthetised by booze and Adrenalin the lads went on to see the fight only to realise how damaged they were when they sobered up.

Both lads spent most of the day in Warwick A&E, with broken ribs and his mate has a broken nose. After which the lad turned up at our place, because his phone was smashed in the fracas. Now we have to take the boy to Coventry A&E as the plastic surgeons want to see him urgently. The fact that I will miss the Alabama 3 gig tonight is of no importance, compared to the impotent fury I feel. My son is no stranger to trouble and injury, but was entirely innocent for this one. He is in shock because he is not used to being beaten up but relieved that no knives were involved. FFS.

I feel sick, but at least I know what a hate crime really is now.

Really sorry to hear this, Stan. As a racially aggravated incident, the police should take this extremely seriously. Hope there is cc tv evidence to identify these cowardly thugs. Most importantly, I hope your son and his mate make swift and full recoveries
 
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Britain in 2018.

In lovely middle class Leamington Spa last night my son and a (black) mate were on the way to another mates to watch the Fury fight when they were attacked by six white men. One of them bit half of my son’s ear off, saying ‘that’s for having ******s for friends’. Also, of course, they were robbed. Anaesthetised by booze and Adrenalin the lads went on to see the fight only to realise how damaged they were when they sobered up.

Both lads spent most of the day in Warwick A&E, with broken ribs and his mate has a broken nose. After which the lad turned up at our place, because his phone was smashed in the fracas. Now we have to take the boy to Coventry A&E as the plastic surgeons want to see him urgently. The fact that I will miss the Alabama 3 gig tonight is of no importance, compared to the impotent fury I feel. My son is no stranger to trouble and injury, but was entirely innocent for this one. He is in shock because he is not used to being beaten up but relieved that no knives were involved. FFS.

I feel sick, but at least I know what a hate crime really is now.

That's f*cking outrageous and a sad indictment of how far this country still has to go to eradicate this Neanderthal behaviour. No doubt drink/drugs were probably involved by the perpetrators but that's no excuse, they've behaved like animals and need to be caught. As you say it's thankful knives weren't involved but little consolation. Hope they both recover but the psychological scars may take a lot longer. All the best to you all...
 
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Thanks for the wishes lads.

In Coventry A&E now, packed on a Sunday night, waiting for the plastic surgeon to show up.

Police gave the boy an incident number and told him not to wash his blood stained clothes and to come back and give a statement when the doctors are finished with him. His mate will be doing the same. The attack happened at 3.00 am and the ****s were of course all hoods up. What worries me is the wife walks the dog round where it happened quite late at night when I am away for work.

Despite my liberal credentials sometimes I feel that a purge of the gene pool would be welcome.
 
Britain in 2018.

In lovely middle class Leamington Spa last night my son and a (black) mate were on the way to another mates to watch the Fury fight when they were attacked by six white men. One of them bit half of my son’s ear off, saying ‘that’s for having ******s for friends’. Also, of course, they were robbed. Anaesthetised by booze and Adrenalin the lads went on to see the fight only to realise how damaged they were when they sobered up.

Both lads spent most of the day in Warwick A&E, with broken ribs and his mate has a broken nose. After which the lad turned up at our place, because his phone was smashed in the fracas. Now we have to take the boy to Coventry A&E as the plastic surgeons want to see him urgently. The fact that I will miss the Alabama 3 gig tonight is of no importance, compared to the impotent fury I feel. My son is no stranger to trouble and injury, but was entirely innocent for this one. He is in shock because he is not used to being beaten up but relieved that no knives were involved. FFS.

I feel sick, but at least I know what a hate crime really is now.
Truly awful - hope all's well with your son. Unlikely that the culprits will ever be caught, or charged if they are, which only makes it worse - total ****s. Think I'd be trawling the streets with a baseball bat if it happened here.


one of mine was attacked by an older kid for his scooter
police were called but apparently could do nothing
had to go out later and thought i would do a quick tour of the back roads incase it had been dumped
saw the little ****s on it in a local school and went to get it back
calling the police first
now in my day we would have done a runner had we seen someone jumping over a fence obviously towards us
not this lot
swinging scooters and bits of timber make you rethink a decision
anyway got the scooter
had some damage done to the car and they eventually pissed off
they were all caught by the police with dogs

sorry to hear about the boy and his mate stan
send him over here on the next steam ship
massive shortage of builders here

steelsy
leave your bat at home
just in case you did find em
 
If you think that you are a Euro freak that's your problem. If you think that was directed at you then that is also your problem.
People who voted Brexit have been called a lot worse. Maybe if people had respected their opinion without all of the nasty Stuff then all the name calling would not have existed.
I am confident if you look back over this thread you will see that at the very start I was okay with all... But then came the ’uneducated thick bigot” slurs that I didn't like and reacted to.
Get off your soapbox. Nobody on here has ever accused a Brexiteer on this Forum of being an uneducated thick bigot, but it suits your petty- mindedness to keep accusing us of this. You've accused me of a lot of things practically every time I have posted to my name and I've been content to correct you each time not to sweep me up in your over-generalisations but then you have a memory and an attention span of a flea so you
just c
arry on. although each of your opponents gets riled a bit from time to time by your style gradually we are all losing the will to live so into the 'Ignore' bin you go. Pretty soon you can howl at the moon 24 hours a day- eventually even the other Brexiteers will get fed up of your puerile rants.
 
Britain in 2018.

In lovely middle class Leamington Spa last night my son and a (black) mate were on the way to another mates to watch the Fury fight when they were attacked by six white men. One of them bit half of my son’s ear off, saying ‘that’s for having ******s for friends’. Also, of course, they were robbed. Anaesthetised by booze and Adrenalin the lads went on to see the fight only to realise how damaged they were when they sobered up.

Both lads spent most of the day in Warwick A&E, with broken ribs and his mate has a broken nose. After which the lad turned up at our place, because his phone was smashed in the fracas. Now we have to take the boy to Coventry A&E as the plastic surgeons want to see him urgently. The fact that I will miss the Alabama 3 gig tonight is of no importance, compared to the impotent fury I feel. My son is no stranger to trouble and injury, but was entirely innocent for this one. He is in shock because he is not used to being beaten up but relieved that no knives were involved. FFS.

I feel sick, but at least I know what a hate crime really is now.

Hard to know how to respond to this other than to say what utter ****s these people must be. I hope your son and his pal recover quickly, both physically and mentally, and I hope your fury subsides soon. I've often wondered how I would cope with violence being visited upon any of my family, and I don't think I would respond well. Best to you, your son and all of your family.
 
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