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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    We really don't. Your ignorance is only based on any publicised mistakes.
    All agencies make mistakes. However, it's widely recognised that ours have stopped hundreds of terrorist plots and they deserve every credit for this. The terrorists only need to get lucky once in a while. It happens and almost all attacks worldwide could have been prevented with hindsight.
    Anyway, I'm sure we won't agree but there it is.
     
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  2. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    father in law works within the service so i’ll Go with that
     
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  3. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    No need to apologise Ellers. Comparing intelligence service results to carrying buckets of water up a hill is a good one though hey. These services as stated are pretty secret so who knows what others are capable of doing.
     
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    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    Paris is nice this time of year :)
     
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  5. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    Exactly I do know one thing 100% they are massively underfunded and extremely short on personal. Overseas it’s a shoestring and we certainly don’t train anyone
    We rely on the states heavily in all aspects

    Two worlds
     
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  6. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    It certainly is 2 mins and you are away from any sign of what is being broadcasted... Dave to confirm that ?
     
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  7. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    Think about speed cameras without film they still sort of work .... Our SIS issues the odd alert but the truth is they have no albility to prevent anything. The alerts are used to raise awareness to all parties

    The culture is contain the PR post event

    Car attacks cannot be monitored at all it’s totally impossible to prevent

    People will still be out Xmas shopping without any thought of danger

    Again I mention one big clue about a potential danger to the UK ... no one attacks the M25 or a Railway line or better still a petrol station

    All of these things would hurt the UK a lot worse than the orchestrated attacks we see across Europe
     
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  8. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    It's like Wonga fleecing an impressionable and much loved great aunt who loses her house and has to move into a budget care home
     
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  9. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    It’s like any day in the city of London imo
    It is what it is
    Any downward turn means it’s open season to make money
    In the UK we spend £9bn on pet insurance
     
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  10. Quite Possibly Raving

    Quite Possibly Raving Well-Known Member

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    The last thing I'd do if my father in law worked in the intelligence services is tell a bunch of strangers on an internet forum, anonymous username or otherwise!
     
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  11. daverangers

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    I've been out and about all week teaching in various places, and haven't noticed anything different, other than it has been unseasonably warm. Some disruption to deliveries due to lorries being delayed by guys in yellow jackets, but I've not noticed anything too disturbing.
     
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  12. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    I reckon all companies should up sticks and move from London to Paris. Always good for a riot at weekends. Get your car burnt out and your company head office smashed in.
     
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  13. YorkshireHoopster

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    What are they supposed to do? We chose to limit the amount of money we lent them. The Germans were prepared to extend their lending in order to give the Greeks time to sort themselves out. It seems they can't get it right whatever they do. Either they are ungenerous unscrupulous money lenders or they are reckless with their nation's money. You'd be slagging them off either way because after all, Germany is the big bad spider at the centre of the web. By the way I'm sure the Wongas will blossom over here once Brexit as been achieved in all its glory. It's what most Brexit ideologues yearn for. I doubt you'll be complaining about them once they're our own home grown extortionists and I'm sure their directors will be rewarded well for their pure spirit of entrepeneurship and success in making money, just as Maggie told them to go out and and do
     
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  14. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Germany apparently we're going to pay all the interest back to greece
    If wonga promised to pay all the interest back but only really could be bothered to pay back less than twenty per cent then people would be rightly up in arms
    But apparently because it's only the Germans ****ing over the Greeks that's all right
    With Galileo the UK paid in 1.4 billion for a return to business of 1.1 billion
    Sounds like the eu is a great pyramid scheme to be in if you get in early with its dodgy deals
     
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    It's actually a financial black hole for the UK, now over 20 years since they last published certified accounts. Nevermind, their biggest supporters, Blair, Mandelson and the Kinnocks have become multi-millionaires on the back of it...
     
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    Goldie you know you can't say anything negative against an EU country. How dare you! They will make it law soon. Lord Haw Haw mk2 will report you for this as it comes across as anti EU.
     
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  17. Mr Gove has just put forward a pretty persuasive case for accepting the deal. He's very good at standing his ground when the interviewer is trying to interrupt him or divert the conversation.
     
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  18. ELLERS

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    Sadly Mr Gove is a weak man who listens to his wife and her friends. He stitched up Boris. He was part of the. Initial group that wanted May out. He sold out for a cabinet position.. He was then in a group that were against the deal and now he supports her. <yikes>
     
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    I see that labour are playing political games again.
     
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  20. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Very strange to mention this at all.plus, if it's true, I'm certain he would agree with what I've said.

    I never said our security services train anyone and they are indeed stretched.
    The training I referred to was by our SF, who's SOPs are replicated around the World.
     
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