Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

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I would recommend having something to eat there, even if it is only some cake. Always rated Magpie more than Trenchers but a friend of mine, who sadly passed away earlier this year, always said the best fish and chips in Whitby are at Hadley's. I think he could be right.
Last time I went a few weeks ago we went in a little Italian cafe bar just over the bridge going towards the Abbey.
It's just on the right and they do fish n chips with tea and bread and butter for $8 during the day .
Quite nice actually
 
There was an independent coffee shop on King Edward Street briefly, but it was next door to Costa and no one went in.

I think Castro's right that the megachains will always win that battle.

It depends on the Cities demographic and disposable income. In Manchester there must be 40 or 50 great independent places even the little towns like Altrincham the independent places do much better. The chains do still do well but alongside the independents. I suppose Manchester has more pretentious twats like myself.

No idea why Hull City Centre doesn't have more.
 
It depends on the Cities demographic and disposable income. In Manchester there must be 40 or 50 great independent places even the little towns like Altrincham the independent places do much better. The chains do still do well but alongside the independents. I suppose Manchester has more pretentious twats like myself.

No idea why Hull City Centre doesn't have more.
They just aren't sustainable .
Macoys is nice .
I don't mind Cafe Nero out of the chains but find Costa abd Starbucks a bit washy
 
It depends on the Cities demographic and disposable income. In Manchester there must be 40 or 50 great independent places even the little towns like Altrincham the independent places do much better. The chains do still do well but alongside the independents. I suppose Manchester has more pretentious twats like myself.

No idea why Hull City Centre doesn't have more.

Myself, if I can't find an independent I'll go without.
 
They just aren't sustainable .
Macoys is nice .
I don't mind Cafe Nero out of the chains but find Costa abd Starbucks a bit washy

That's the thing, I don't get why. Is it because of demographic? Or the fact there are places like Prinny Ave and Beverley?

We will go to a different independent every Sunday morning for coffee, we have tried maybe 30 different places this year and all of them are thriving. I get it's a bigger city, but you thought there would be 6 or 7 at least.

If I'm going chain it's Pret for me, much better breakfast options.
 
That's the thing, I don't get why. Is it because of demographic? Or the fact there are places like Prinny Ave and Beverley?

We will go to a different independent every Sunday morning for coffee, we have tried maybe 30 different places this year and all of them are thriving. I get it's a bigger city, but you thought there would be 6 or 7 at least.

If I'm going chain it's Pret for me, much better breakfast options.
I know there's been a fall in the foot fall into the centre.
 
I would recommend having something to eat there, even if it is only some cake. Always rated Magpie more than Trenchers but a friend of mine, who sadly passed away earlier this year, always said the best fish and chips in Whitby are at Hadley's. I think he could be right.
Went to Magpie in the summer for first time since the fires - bang average I’m afraid. I’ve always liked Little Chip, no frills but great fish.
 
I know there's been a fall in the foot fall into the centre.

That may be compared to 2017 but the footfall is visibly higher than prior to City of Culture, and is now starting to span a wider daily hour range. I was out with a former Hull lad last weekend and he couldn't believe how far the city centre has improved and how busy it was. He came from Thursday to Sunday. He last visited 3 years ago.
 
That may be compared to 2017 but the footfall is visibly higher than prior to City of Culture, and is now starting to span a wider daily hour range. I was out with a former Hull lad last weekend and he couldn't believe how far the city centre has improved and how busy it was. He came from Thursday to Sunday. He last visited 3 years ago.
The City centre looks a hell of a lot nicer than it did 4 years as ago.