Yanis Varoufakis (who has some experience of negotiating with the EU) on Newsnight tonight says that there is no chance whatsoever of getting them to change the deal that is on the table one jot. What he says May could do (but she won't of course) is switch to Norway plus, which the EU have already offered. She should, Cameron would have. Norway plus would sail through parliament and would properly reflect the 52-48 referendum result.
What is more important is that you failed to mention that he also said the EU are 'Bullies'. "Nobody negotiates with the EU" and discussing Greece he said "That they switched off the ATM machines in order to as Asphyxiate us to sign on the dotted line". You cannot deal with these people as they have a "checklist that they go tick tick tick". How can anyone support the EU after listening to that? I really hope we tell them to F-off and go on WTO now. The sooner we get out of this disgusting organisation the better
The thing that worries with May's crap deal, is not only, did she capitulate but what chance do we have in the next deal? She has sold us out and needs to go asap. Maybe it might be a good idea to have a General election. Get a leave party like UKIP going and get rid of these weak sell-outs.
We aren't Greece. You didn't read the post I copied from Facebook about WTO did you? You didn't like the first paragraph as I remember (fingers in ears, LALALALA). It was pretty damning of the suggestion that we could just swan off on WTO terms, so I did ask if anyone could refute what it was saying. No one did. We should just go for a Norway deal and put everyone out of this lingering misery. We could all get back on with our lives.
Forget Norway as that would include freedom of movement and that would upset many. Best way forward is to just have a free trade deal... that solves everything.
He is right on a few points. . No point in a second vote because as it will be too close (that's why remainers wanted a second vote). . No point trying to deal in Brexit when you don't believe in it (May). As he said it has been an opportunity wasted. We all seem to be getting turned over.
Yes, Norway would involve free movement, but we could control it much better than we have done up to now (see the Johnson/Clarke article). A free trade deal doesn't solve everything at all. Northern Ireland?
The Ireland thing has been overplayed. If we had a free trade deal there would be a way around this (or so they say). As for control... do you really believe it will make a difference? What we can all agree on is that May's deal is crap and putting it back to the people won't change a thing. No deal keeps getting 'project fear' used whenever mentioned. I will be honest and say I don't have any answers. What i will say however is listen to the greek fella last night has only harden my cause to get out of the EU.
I hearing May has caved in and given the EU what they want. She has betrayed us all. I now hope there is a General Election and get rid of this weak leader.
The Tories may be in office, but, now that the DUP has withdrawn its support, no longer in power. They had to accept a series of Labour amendments to the Budget bill for fear of losing the votes. Whatever next? https://videos.files.wordpress.com/sX3QsV9g/may-office-not-power_hd.mp4 Good to see Malcolm Mclaren back.
I thought he was dead? Well if/when she goes she will go down as the worst PM (other than Blair maybe) in my lifetime. She really is a hopeless sell-out. God knows what she has signed us up to but many are saying it's a complete crap deal. I hope it gets voted down twice and she quits office as she is not fit to govern.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/11/mays-brexit-deal-the-legal-verdict/ https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-frictionless-trade-theresa-may-chequers-plan
Top post, people taking pride for things they had **** all to do with,reminds me of a Doug Stanhope stand up routine
Oh no the Corbynites are out! It's just a shame he needs to mock people that gave their lives. I guess if you don't have any decent material why not mock people who can't defend themselves now.
