please log in to view this image Nadine Dorries couldn’t make the ERG’s 6pm meeting last night and so instead has sent a list of seven key points she would have liked to have raised. She hits out at members who have “let the ERG down as a group”, those who see themselves as “above” sending a letter,and those who are constantly briefing journalists. Read the mammoth message in full here: At 6pm, I will be chairing the finance bill on the floor of the house and therefore, cannot attend the meeting. If I were there, I would be very, very keen to speak and make the following points. I would be grateful if the chairman would acknowledge my comments during the meeting. There are a handful of you who have badly let the ERG down as a group, opening us up to ridicule and abuse in the media and online. I am referring to those MPs who have not put their letters in. It is being said that you have let the side down and are not the type of people anyone would want to go into battle with. You have left others to do the dirty work of pushing forward the debate and hid under the covers. Only one person in the group has an excuse that is even fractionally credible, the rest are transparent and risible. There is an assumption that some believe themselves to be ‘superior’ or ‘senior’ and above the tackiness of submitting a letter. You are not. We are all equal, all elected members, all have one vote and should all have each other’s back. The excuse that some will wait until the vote is lost, and it will be, are doing neither the party or the country a favour. No10 are reportedly already preparing for a general election. Your strategy is high risk and dangerous as what could very quickly follow, after a second lost vote, if there were one, would be a vote of confidence in the government. If the worst were to happen, a general election would follow. We either change the PM or face an election. None of want to do this, we would all prefer an easier life, but there can be no other outcome and those who are too self important to put in their letters at this stage, will deliver the latter. I cannot think of any greater imperative to submitting a letter and changing leader than the thought that we are faced with a general election and some of our precious colleagues, new MPs with barely any time in their seat, walking into an election 5 points behind in the polls with a communist government waiting in the wings. It is not a good plan to tip the media off about a meeting in No10 and then refuse to give the media comment. It results in ridicule of the whole group rather than the few holding the meeting. Certain members of the group are constantly briefing Beth Rigby and Laura Kuenssberg. As someone who pays my dues to the group (and I would like to see a list of those who do compared to how many are on this WhatsApp) less briefing and more strategy might be good? Beth and Laura are both professionals and great journalists, but no one on the group has any professional experience in comms and I think that is beginning to show. The DUP mean business. Not one of us travelling to Brussels or meeting with the PM is going to get her to change her mind, however well the meetings go. There is a belief in the party that the DUP will buckle and come back to the fold. That is an absolute underestimation of the determination of the DUP. They understand principle and the art of negotiation better than most. Our majority has almost left the room as a result of this deal. We all know what will follow.
It quite saddens me too ellers. Pride is a personel opinion on something. I'm proud of my son. I'm not proud of the neighbours son. Of course talking about food banks has something to do with myself being proud or not. I donate weekly to them. I'm proud of that, whilst I feel no pride at all that we live in a society where people have to use them.
I am stating a point that for all the faults we have...we are still a better country than many others around the World. You say "I donate weekly to them. I'm proud of that" and so you should be proud. The fact that you do this makes me 'believe in my country' and the people we have in it. Forget for a minute the reasons why many people use food banks. Think about the people that help out. As I said I am proud of my country and I believe in it. I said earlier that Deal/may's deal/no deal we will come through all this stronger because of who we are and what we can do. I believe in my country... cue the National anthem!
You and others can be as proud of being British (English?) as you want, and good luck to you. I’m very happy to be British, and in the grand scheme of things there is plenty of stuff to be proud of, not least our history, inventiveness, and cultural influence, especially in law and justice. I travel a lot, including to places that have reason not to be our biggest fans, and never feel any shame in declaring where I’m from. But that does not convert into unwavering ‘belief’ that my country is special other than the accident of birth that I happen to be from here. What the **** this has to do with ‘being better’ than other countries is beyond me. If we are ‘better’ than many other countries, how are we better, and which countries are better than us? From the evidence of my eyes on 11 November the Poles are much better than us in demonstrating pride in their country (not the few nationalist nutters in Warsaw, but ordinary and friendly families in Krakow and Kielce). It’s not a competition in my view.
We are proud of the UK we are Anglo Saxons But we have things wrong Having the courage to admit that is half the battle This lot currently in power same as the last two decades sold our country out imo
No much to be proud of the UK at the moment imo Apart from the football music and the arts Historically there is a wonder to look upon The sum of all the parts currently should make people pissed off
Maybe I should have said we are more democratic than a lot of crap countries around the World. However, what I have read from some they don't understand the word.
So arch May ally Amber Rudd voices what the vast majority of MPs already know - parliament won't allow No Deal to happen. That being the case, what happens when May's deal gets voted down?
I was surprised to see Ken Clarke saying he would be voting for it today. Can see some Labour rebels being bounced into it now to avoid hard Brexit. All comes down to ERG - you have to wonder, if they can't even manage 48 letters if they may realise that this deal is the best they will get. Humiliation over last few days may cause them to think twice. Still a long shot, I fully appreciate, but looking more likely than it was two days ago.
How about they shoot that tosser on College Green with the People's Vote placards that tries to get into the frame of every interview!
He said that he has been there every day for 15 months...How about getting a job. He probably wants to stay in the EU because he thinks under new law he may have to work. Just another muppet obsessed with being in the limelight. Agree shoot him.
Looking forward to the proud British allowing the proud Scottish and the proud NI people at least have a decent say on how their sectors of the UK continue UAE my arse Pride today in the UK means a couple of weekends in the summer when we can all play guess the fruit ... oh that’s a prickly pear
