Off Topic The Politics Thread

[Stroller]

Great post - couldn't agree more and I voted remain. There's hope yet I'm also glad you continue to contribute as have always thought you're one of the best posters on this thread - and this is the best political thread on the forum as a whole.

Really?

 

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Funny it’s only remainers that want this vote....I wonder why? As for changing minds. When people have project fear blasting out everyday by the people who want to remain and a PM who has managed to cock up negotiations due to remainers what do you expect?
Don’t give me the ‘True democracy’ crap as it took 4 decades to get this chance to leave and we only triggered article 50 2 years ago and are still within the time. Trying to stop it is un-democratic.

I don't want that vote. If we do it will result in a no deal. I still want us to leave with the minimum of damage. Are the predictions of how bad no deal will be exaggerated? Yeah most probably. Do I want us to take that risk? No.
I'm still hoping pretty much all of us will get something out of this that we can live with. I'm not sure why as I stopped believing in Santa Claus when I was 43...

 

[DT’s Socks]

With ****e like that Paul, people like you really are the problem.

Maybe I am and what’s more I want to be a problem in this little world of N606

Hang on Staines
Love and Hate ponder on the two states

It’s ok to read
Remoaners and insults about what Brexiteers hate about Europe etc

Welcome to the balance son x

 

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Really?

Yes. Other threads are just full of abuse where as at least people by and large try to see each other's views here.

 

[Stroller]

Yes. Other threads are just full of abuse where as at least people by and large try to see each other's views here.

That's not what I meant.

Hey, ho.

 

[Staines R's]

Maybe I am and what’s more I want to be a problem in this little world of N606

Hang on Staines
Love and Hate ponder on the two states

It’s ok to read
Remoaners and insults about what Brexiteers hate about Europe etc

Welcome to the balance son x

I think you are a bit mad.....but I don’t hate you ‘cos you voted different to me...like, I don’t hate my mates who voted Tory....
You are all just misguided.

 

[Stroller]

I think you are a bit mad.....but I don’t hate you ‘cos you voted different to me...like, I don’t hate my mates who voted Tory....
You are all just misguided.

Which side will you be on when the Gammons turn on the proletariat?

 

[Staines R's]

Which side will you be on when the Gammons turn on the proletariat?

If I knew what you were on about I might give you an answer.

 

[ELLERS]

If I knew what you were on about I might give you an answer.

He wouldn’t listen as he has his fingers in his ears.

 

[Stroller]

If I knew what you were on about I might give you an answer.

We've been threatened with blood on the streets if Brexit is denied.

Old, white (red faced) males (mostly) versus young people and women (mostly).

Which side of the barricades are you on?

 

[Staines R's]

We've been threatened with blood on the streets if Brexit is denied.

Old, white (red faced) males (mostly) versus young people and women (mostly).

Which side of the barricades are you on?

If you think that is the way Pro/Anti Brexit supporters are (mostly) divided then you’re, in my opinion, wrong.
I would suggest more middle class possibly voted remain though

 

[ELLERS]

I don't want that vote. If we do it will result in a no deal. I still want us to leave with the minimum of damage. Are the predictions of how bad no deal will be exaggerated? Yeah most probably. Do I want us to take that risk? No.
I'm still hoping pretty much all of us will get something out of this that we can live with. I'm not sure why as I stopped believing in Santa Claus when I was 43...

Agree a vote would only divide the country even more and would cause unrest if remain won. I hear what people say about democracy however if you strip back the fundamentals of the vote it was clear. Leave/remain. People who never voted before made the effort. People who said they didn’t trust the political elite but would vote.... if you betray these people then the word democracy is worthless. The EU don’t understand the word and make countries vote through bullying to get the result. Their bullying will be their undoing.
As for what sort of deal we get...we need to be strong or otherwise this Brexit thing will never end.

 

[ELLERS]

Old, white (red faced) males (mostly) versus young people and women (mostly).

What like Vince cable Tony Blair and Ken Clarke?

 

[Staines R's]

What like Vince cable Tony Blair and Ken Clarke?

Don’t forget Patrick Stewart, Benedict Cumberbatch, Eddie Izzard and Simon Cowell....to name but a few.

 

[ELLERS]

Funny I was only discussing how the EU like taking our money and I see a breaking news headline and this. We really do need to wise up.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...sition-could-be-extended-to-2022-says-barnier

I am also hearing that a few EU counties want us to give up more in this deal. I wonder if the enemy within will accept that’? Probably.

 

[ELLERS]

Don’t forget Patrick Stewart, Benedict Cumberbatch, Eddie Izzard and Simon Cowell....to name but a few.

I wonder what side of the barricades Jezza will be on?

 

[Staines R's]

I wonder what side of the barricades Jezza will be on?

A Brexiteer without a shadow of a doubt.....

 

[DT’s Socks]

Brexit is without doubt the biggest thing to happen in the UK for decades and it’s impact has split the country. You cannot expect one half to be pleased and roll over especially when the Brexiteers haven’t stopped crowing for two years

I believe their will be plenty of doubt within the side that democratically won at that time 52/48

I accept the result but do not accept that this is the will of the people today after having two years

Brexiteers will face hatred imo as soon as the first thing goes wrong after we leave I expect a massive swing prior to March

The hatred of the EU is evident enough on here by some Brexiteers that’s the hypocrisy imo

The only way imo to heal this wound is a second vote because if Brexit won and no one can really say then you would at least get acceptance and following that unity that’s the only way imo to heal the hurt .... it’s called making sure and what’s more I would make it a minimum of 60/40 whichever way it would go

Brexiteers certainly can’t run the country on their own plus Scotland and NI must be given the right to become part of the EU if they vote to

Only then will everyone see that this was a protest vote

 

[QPR Oslo]

When was the last time you were in this country for any length of time Ossie? It’s toxic, and another referendum would take the toxicity to fatal levels. The politicians have to decide - do they let half the country feel betrayed by having another probably inconclusive vote, do they **** the entire country over by failing to reach any managed way forward or do they do their jobs and accept responsibility and accountability for finding a tolerable way forward for the majority of the population?

I saw a poll last week that had stay in EU on 54% and both No Deal and the Cabinet approved deal way behind. I was in the UK most of September and other than in the media I heard little mention of Brexit, what there was mostly people calling it for what it is a huge mess, and wanting it stopped. But toxic - after 2.5 years there didn't seem much left.

 

[rangercol]

Really?

That's not what I meant.

Hey, ho.

Yes. Other threads are just full of abuse where as at least people by and large try to see each other's views here.

I think Strolls was referring to your kind comment about me mate (he's not a fan).