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And as long as you continue to pay your subs, they will continue to keep you outside of anything meaningful.

Having been in government for so long the Conservatives have an enormous array of talent and experience. I’m quite happy to rely on the excellent ERG group to keep the party on the right track.

Where is that new ‘middle way’ UK party you promised? It is a long time coming. Will it last longer than Macron’s out of favour bunch?
 
1 dead, 227 injured, scores arrested in France’s road blockades regarding fuel duty and anti Macron protests. France is looking increasing unstable with extreme politics squeezing the political middle ground. Despite the UK’s internal differences over Brexit we fortunately do not suffer the political riots and violent demonstrations regularly seen in France.
It is absolutely disgusting that you should use the deaths of people to divert from what was being discussed.
 
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It is absolutely disgusting that you should use the deaths of people to divert from what was being discussed.

What a silly comment. Is it not possible to mention more than one subject. The thread is about UK/EU relations, political instability within our near neighbours is entirely relevant and in context.
 
Dominic Raab has finally concurred with my long held view that the UK is negotiating with EU bullies. Best to meet them head on, don't try to appease them, they deem that as weakness.
Trump's recent actions had the eurocrats scuttling about like rats in a barrel.
 
You wish to associate yourself with a man who doesn't even know that trade goes through Dover? Doesn't say much for our education system if people like him can become Ministers. The real bullies in all this farce are the ERG who despite being a minor grouping that shouldn't even be in the Tory party, are threatening to bring the PM down if she doesn't bend to their will. If they feel so strongly about promoting one of their own and need money to do so, let them put their hands into their own pockets instead of inviting mugs to pay up.
 
You wish to associate yourself with a man who doesn't even know that trade goes through Dover? Doesn't say much for our education system if people like him can become Ministers. The real bullies in all this farce are the ERG who despite being a minor grouping that shouldn't even be in the Tory party, are threatening to bring the PM down if she doesn't bend to their will. If they feel so strongly about promoting one of their own and need money to do so, let them put their hands into their own pockets instead of inviting mugs to pay up.

Unlike France the UK does not have a hugely popular far right party, we don’t do extreme politics. Are you sure they have not targeted you for a contribution?
 
Labour has opened up a 3% lead in the latest opinion poll. There can be little wonder that the Tory party has seen its support dive amid all the infighting. Say you will do the impossible and fail is a certain cause of disaffection.
 
Labour has opened up a 3% lead in the latest opinion poll. There can be little wonder that the Tory party has seen its support dive amid all the infighting. Say you will do the impossible and fail is a certain cause of disaffection.

It doesn’t take long for the public to always return to the default position of not trusting the LP.
 
If you look at the last twenty years, how many of them have seen the Tories trusted enough to give them a majority in Parliament?
 
If you look at the last twenty years, how many of them have seen the Tories trusted enough to give them a majority in Parliament?

The Tories have been trusted enough by the public to keep them in power since 2010. Normally opposition parties are way ahead mid term. The Lib Dem’s and Labour are considered simply not good enough to trust with public office.
 
At this stage I would prefer May to be replaced by David Davis with Rees Mogg as Chancellor. This would unite the party and keep the DUP on board. This would also end the requirement for a GE.
 
As usual, you ignore the facts that Labour have governed for just as long as the Conservatives over the last 70 years.

Ok, the Labour Party has a well earned poor reputation since 2008. The public just doesn’t trust Labour, especially with the Marxist twins in charge.
 
What a silly comment. Is it not possible to mention more than one subject. The thread is about UK/EU relations, political instability within our near neighbours is entirely relevant and in context.
I wouldn't say that this is a sign of political instability SH. If you want signs of that then look closer to home. What happened was that one driver paniked because of being surrounded and drove over someone as a result - a tragic occurance, but one which could have happened anywhere. I must admit to scratching my head about people who are prepared to go to such lengths because of an issue such as diesel tax - where is the environmental consciousness ? Personally I would be quite happen to see petrol and diesel prices increase 10 times over if it would lead to fewer cars on the roads. What we need is a revolution in the role of public transport (preferably electric).
 
What a silly comment. Is it not possible to mention more than one subject. The thread is about UK/EU relations, political instability within our near neighbours is entirely relevant and in context.
Nonsense. You used it for point scoring purposes and that was crystal clear. It was a shameful comment and you have castgsted others for doing something similar.
 
I wouldn't say that this is a sign of political instability SH. If you want signs of that then look closer to home. What happened was that one driver paniked because of being surrounded and drove over someone as a result - a tragic occurance, but one which could have happened anywhere. I must admit to scratching my head about people who are prepared to go to such lengths because of an issue such as diesel tax - where is the environmental consciousness ? Personally I would be quite happen to see petrol and diesel prices increase 10 times over if it would lead to fewer cars on the roads. What we need is a revolution in the role of public transport (preferably electric).

Your forgot the 200 + injured and scores arrested. Many of the demonstrations were aimed at Macron’s unpopular policies.
 
Nonsense. You used it for point scoring purposes and that was crystal clear. It was a shameful comment and you have castgsted others for doing something similar.

I understand you have trouble deviating from clear lines of thought as instructed, it comes with the job.
 
Your forgot the 200 + injured and scores arrested. Many of the demonstrations were aimed at Macron’s unpopular policies.
Macron's policies are mostly Thatcherite ones SH. so I am surprised at your constant attacking of him. Also, the scores of injured and arrested, does not tell us a great deal about the stability, or otherwise, of France - it tells us that the French police are rather heavy handed on such occasions, which we know anyway. One thing which I will complement Britain on - it's police are , mostly, more restrained than you would find elsewhere.
 
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