Off Topic UK / EU Future

The UK’s problems will be short lived. The debt riddled members problems are long standing with no sign of any improvement.
You really should spend time and energy on your own government. It needs some fresh ideas or else the millions of youngsters without work may never experience having a job.

 

France is one of the only EU countries with unemployment on the rise.

 

I will rephrase that: is France the only EU member state with rising unemployment?

 

But surely (through your own words) this is proof of the success of the EU. if 26 from 27 nations have falling unemployment it must be working !

 

You seem to forget that I have a foot in both countries, and I can read and understand the problems that exist in both. You also do not seem to want to understand that as I go around I see jobs being advertised, not 8 hours a week as I saw in the UK last week, but proper 35 hour ones. If you lived here and tried to understand the language then you might have a better understanding, rather than relying on what the English websites choose to tell you.
The UK is in a total mess, not for you, but in many towns and cities. What do people want? To have a roof over their heads, provide a meal for their families, and not be worried everyday because of the Brexit chaos they will have a job to go to. People on the streets, increasing, food banks, increasing, and companies moving out in increasing numbers is what I see on my trips across the Channel. Here you cannot turn people out of their homes during the winter months. The food banks do exist, but they are used for very short periods, not long term main means of surviving, and jobs are increasing as I said above. None of these problems in the UK are getting better. All the figures show them to be getting worse. Depends what sort of society you want, and there I suspect we do not see things from the same perspective. There used to be a thing known as one nation conservatism. That has disappeared, to replaced by a Tory party that is happy to see most of the wealth go to the richest.

 

You unfortunately see what you want to see. Unemployment in France has stayed at a similar level since 2010. French governments of many different persuasions have tried without any success whatsoever to tackle the obviously faulty labour relations laws. The result is the accepted high level of unemployment especially amongst the young. France’s debt continues to rise uncontrollably, with a government lacking the nous or courage to address the problems. Macron is seen as ‘out of touch’ by the population so the nation will not be willing to accept any further fiscal tightening. The cost of servicing France’s huge, and fast rising, debt will further eat into available resources leading to poorer services. There is no sign of this downward spiral being halted or even slowed.

Politically the French are dissolutioned by the ‘new’ way of the Macron experiment and have joined many EU countries with a lurch to the far right whose party is also predicted to win the European elections. Nationwide strikes and roadblocks are symptoms of a deeply unhappy population. There is a realisation that things are getting worse, the French government has run out of ideas and support of the people.

 

When did you last live in France? You are rather out of touch.

 

It must be very foggy in your region, you don’t seem to be able to see beyond your boundaries. Probably best not to try to travel too far by car on Saturday, it might be like a scene from Les Miserables.

The music is good though.

 

I think she will get this deal through Parliament. Once everyone has a proper chance to digest it they will realise it's the best of a lot of sub optimal outcomes - and we were never going to get anywhere near what was promised. It's this or no deal - and I think enough MPs will see sense to back it .it's not the end of the journey anyway as it's the future partnership deal that will show where we are in December 2020. Before the criticism starts - I still don't want to leave but it's inevitable. This is amputating a foot - much as I hate that idea it's better than the decapitation of 80% of the nation being championed by Mogg and co

 

How funny that bridges in London have been blocked today, and trains in both the north and south of the country have been hit by strikes. Maybe not all is well.

 

Listening to the news at lunch time, I didn't notice any of the Mogg brigade softening their threats. Are you suggesting that they will pull back and vote for the deal? Do you believe that the DUP are all bluster? If they don't change then the government is likely to have to rely on the Labour Party to bail them out. The after effects of such a cross party deal could be interesting to say the least.

 

I think labour will come to the rescue. The government can be brought down easily but I would suggest this isn't the vote to do it and I honestly think enough of them will act in that way. Of course they could also bring down Corbyn!

 

We have no deaths and serious injuries as caused in France today due to blockades. Quite different.

The peasants are revolting.

 

The problem is that we are in uncharted waters where nobody can predict the consequences of throwing out May's deal. There is not the time (or the inclination on the side of the EU.) to renegotiate in such a case. I cannot conceive that a British PM. would allow a no deal fallout to happen, which leaves only the possibilities of a general election or a second referendum - these are the only situations in which the EU. would give us more time. Even then we could be back to square one if the results of either election or referendum went the wrong way - with no time for negotiating afterwards.

 

It is far too early to rule out a no deal scenario. If there is a change of PM who fails to obtain the necessary corrections to the proposed deal it could well end in stalemate and an initial absence of a deal. Even if May stays she has promised no second referendum, does she have history of changing her mind?

 

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I am sure that SH will be willing to help Jacob over his financial crisis. The poor man is in need of every £25 he can gather in. Surely he is not paying the TV companies to give interviews. Still if he needs money to be heard, perhaps he is.

 

Let Jacob's voice be heard? For the love of God - he gets more air time than the entire Cabinet combined. Well it certainly feels that way sometimes. I'm beginning to think they have to provide a certain amount of time for Old Etonians on the airwaves and they can't trust Boris to not do unspeakable things in the studio.

 

Boris seems to have gone quiet in recent times since Burka gate...

JRM has a lot of time to speak...and I presume look after his 6 children!

 

Openly fund raising against their own party. This surely is a party within a party, and they should have the whip withdrawn at the very least.