Brexit Vote

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Public Vote

  • No Deal

    Votes: 10 28.6%

  • May's Deal

    Votes: 2 5.7%

  • Remain in the EU

    Votes: 20 57.1%

  • Shoot Mogg's in the Bolloxs (The don't care vote)

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • Total voters
    35
Tobes said:
It’d get through with those numbers though.
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That's being extremely conservative (no pun intended), it depends on what party line Corbyn instructs his party to tow.
What do you think he will instruct his MP's to do?
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Nobody's going to shut up. It's not going to happen.
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Whoever doesnt will need to be ignored.
Which ever way it goes, No Deal or Mays deal, or the fictional No brexit, whoever speaks out will just have to be locked in a box and sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
**** em
 
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Tobes said:
It has to reach a conclusion though, even if we had another vote and remain won, it’d not stop, there’d be a further lurch to the right, UKIP 2 under that weasely faced old ashtray Farage and years of bullshit about selective democracy.

No deal is virtually universally seen as an absolute clusterfuck, barring those who’ll clean up fiscally from it, and bobble heads who don’t understand what the **** is going on, they just want OUT!

So there has to be a solution, there has to be Brexit, so Mays withdrawal deal allows for a sensible exit imo, the extremists won’t have it, not arsed. The moderates should have it, but I’m not sure they will. What a complete **** up this entire thing is.
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I think it could draw a political conclusion for us but not sure it will for the whole of the EU. Pure guess, but i reckon other member countries are awaiting the final outcome of the UK. Those certain members may then well base any future thoughts around what is feasible, and what is not feasible in any lines we draw in that conclusion. Some members may not wish to be out in the same way as the UK, but their maybe bargaining tools in there that they will ask of Brussels.
 
Tobes said:
There will a conclusion though, and that’ll be either Mays deal, no deal or no Brexit.

Which would you take now?
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No Brexit.
It's ****. It's been shown to be ****. Everything promised has been shown to be a lie.
Those behind the campaigns are implicated in all kinds of crap. **** it off and let the police do their jobs.

It's burying all other political news, too.
The UN reported that the austerity measures are killing 30,000 people a year and it's just gone by without comment.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
No Brexit.
It's ****. It's been shown to be ****. Everything promised has been shown to be a lie.
Those behind the campaigns are implicated in all kinds of crap. **** it off and let the police do their jobs.

It's burying all other political news, too.
The UN reported that the austerity measures are killing 30,000 people a year and it's just gone by without comment.
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Probably because its bollocks.
 
Bodinki said:
Whoever doesnt will need to be ignored.
Which ever way it goes, No Deal or Mays deal, or the fictional No brexit, whoever speaks out will just have to be locked in a box and sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
**** em
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Don't like to break this to you Bod but this is just the withdrawal agreement (the easy bit <laugh> ) and if that goes thru we will then spend at least the next 2 years discussing the actual Brexit deal we will be negotiating with the EU.

I hear St Petersburg is nice this time of year
 
Solid_Air 2 said:
you really think the austerity measures are killing 30000 (extra) per annum ?
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Possibly not. But austerity is causing untold misery to many more people than that, and the UNs reporteur was absolutely scathing about the impact of government policy on the most vulnerable people in what remains (probably not for much longer) the worlds 6th largest economy.
 
Solid_Air 2 said:
I admit to not having bothered to read the report but since you have read the report presumably you can give me a breakdown of which austerity measures are causing these extra deaths.
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So you just feel that it's wrong, then?
 
Archers Road said:
Possibly not. But austerity is causing untold misery to many more people than that, and the UNs reporteur was absolutely scathing about the impact of government policy on the most vulnerable people in what remains (probably not for much longer) the worlds 6th largest economy.
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Oh i agree that the austerity measures were targeted at vulnerable groups in society (except pensioners as they vote Tory) but some of that started before the crash i.e. the scapegoating of disabled people highlighted by the internal DWP memos regarding suicide threats by claimants . Sensationalist headlines like that don't help the debate at all it just makes it easy to dismiss all criticism contained in the report.
 
The royal society of medicine which generated the reports stated, that there had been the largest increase in mortality in the post war period. If that is the truth then why was the pension age raised, because the RSM even commented that there was a decrease in spending for older people in their report, although what age was not defined. This was representative of deaths in 2015, the very period when the pension age started increasing.

With the OSN statistics showing a rise in deaths the government were urged to 'push back' the pension age, however, despite these statistics DWP proposed bringing forward the increases <doh>
 
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