Match Day Thread QPR v Bristol City

[sb_73]

There will be when the price and time is right

Dave, the club is free if someone wants it and the shareholders want to get rid. It’s a chronically loss making concern, even after the belt tightening. I can’t see how it can be sold for money. It has £25m in property assets and a generous £15m in playing staff assets, neither of which can be realised, and will lose that total just standing still over 4-5 seasons. The present mob have destroyed the brand. So you get a decrepit stadium in West London (which is a big plus), some players who cover all the bases on the **** to average continuum, and a fickle fan base.

The Mittals were instrumental in bringing in Warnock. My recollection is that Mittal wanted to buy out Eccles and Briatore, but pissed them off by preempting their decision to sell. They went off to find an idiot with lots of money to waste and found Fernandes.

As you say, Mittal sat as a minority shareholder under Fernandes, but as mismanagement continued, got frustrated (who wouldn't?) and reduced his stake.

There may or may not be a residue of Mittal interest in buying the club if Tony and Ruben bail out. Given Amit's continued interest and current role, I'd say Mittal interest could be revived.

We obviously have different opinions of the Mittals. But even if you are right and they are benign, with no transfers until next summer, unless they can persuade Spurs to loan us Kane and Atlético Madrid to lend us their CBs before 31 August, the only way they can make a difference is in getting a new manager. Even when we can buy players again next summer, we can only buy good ones if we are prepared to get into FFP trouble again, because with the end of our parachute payments we are in an even worse position regarding revenue.

So whoever the owners are it’s a choice between austerity and if we are lucky an eternity in the bottom half of the Championship or another spend, spend, spend gamble on getting into the PL. They way I feel about it at the moment I’d be happy if we somehow survived in the championship this year and went nuts with the cash next season, whatever the outcome. **** sustainability, I’m running out of time.

I’m with Uber, I’d like the Malaysians and the Mittals to walk, if only because they are forever tainted with the disaster of the last seven years and they don’t appear to be able to pick decent staff to run a football club. And like Uber I’d like experienced nasty owners or perhaps becoming part of a club owning conglomerate like Watford.

But who knows, perhaps we’ll keep clean sheets for the rest of the season and Wells and Hemed will score 40 goals each.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Dave, the club is free if someone wants it and the shareholders want to get rid. It’s a chronically loss making concern, even after the belt tightening. I can’t see how it can be sold for money. It has £25m in property assets and a generous £15m in playing staff assets, neither of which can be realised, and will lose that total just standing still over 4-5 seasons. The present mob have destroyed the brand. So you get a decrepit stadium in West London (which is a big plus), some players who cover all the bases on the **** to average continuum, and a fickle fan base.

We obviously have different opinions of the Mittals. But even if you are right and they are benign, with no transfers until next summer, unless they can persuade Spurs to loan us Kane and Atlético Madrid to lend us their CBs before 31 August, the only way they can make a difference is in getting a new manager. Even when we can buy players again next summer, we can only buy good ones if we are prepared to get into FFP trouble again, because with the end of our parachute payments we are in an even worse position regarding revenue.

So whoever the owners are it’s a choice between austerity and if we are lucky an eternity in the bottom half of the Championship or another spend, spend, spend gamble on getting into the PL. They way I feel about it at the moment I’d be happy if we somehow survived in the championship this year and went nuts with the cash next season, whatever the outcome. **** sustainability, I’m running out of time.

I’m with Uber, I’d like the Malaysians and the Mittals to walk, if only because they are forever tainted with the disaster of the last seven years and they don’t appear to be able to pick decent staff to run a football club. And like Uber I’d like experienced nasty owners or perhaps becoming part of a club owning conglomerate like Watford.

But who knows, perhaps we’ll keep clean sheets for the rest of the season and Wells and Hemed will score 40 goals each.

Agree with most of that, Stan. I just don't think you can blame the Mittals for where we are now. They've been sleeping partners. Amit will have more influence now as chairman, but still, it is the owners that will effectively call the tune. I just don't know whether they've learned their lessons. Survival in the Championship is all we can hope for this season. The two strikers we've taken on is positive - McClaren seems to have chosen well, and I give him credit for that. One week to bolster our defence.

 

[DT’s Socks]

Dave, the club is free if someone wants it and the shareholders want to get rid. It’s a chronically loss making concern, even after the belt tightening. I can’t see how it can be sold for money. It has £25m in property assets and a generous £15m in playing staff assets, neither of which can be realised, and will lose that total just standing still over 4-5 seasons. The present mob have destroyed the brand. So you get a decrepit stadium in West London (which is a big plus), some players who cover all the bases on the **** to average continuum, and a fickle fan base.

We obviously have different opinions of the Mittals. But even if you are right and they are benign, with no transfers until next summer, unless they can persuade Spurs to loan us Kane and Atlético Madrid to lend us their CBs before 31 August, the only way they can make a difference is in getting a new manager. Even when we can buy players again next summer, we can only buy good ones if we are prepared to get into FFP trouble again, because with the end of our parachute payments we are in an even worse position regarding revenue.

So whoever the owners are it’s a choice between austerity and if we are lucky an eternity in the bottom half of the Championship or another spend, spend, spend gamble on getting into the PL. They way I feel about it at the moment I’d be happy if we somehow survived in the championship this year and went nuts with the cash next season, whatever the outcome. **** sustainability, I’m running out of time.

I’m with Uber, I’d like the Malaysians and the Mittals to walk, if only because they are forever tainted with the disaster of the last seven years and they don’t appear to be able to pick decent staff to run a football club. And like Uber I’d like experienced nasty owners or perhaps becoming part of a club owning conglomerate like Watford.

But who knows, perhaps we’ll keep clean sheets for the rest of the season and Wells and Hemed will score 40 goals each.

Fickle fan base and the corruption and loss of brand where have I heard that before?

The Ball Goes Wide To Dave Thomas

Brand recovery is easy enough ... never been easier as today people grab any trend
It’s having the bollocks to do it

Simon Jordan’s speech was inspiring to me as he reflected what QPR meant to neutral eyes. The next stage imo is unknown of course but in a short time on here there seems a new unity as we all come together in realisation of our story.

LR will appeal to someone as it is nothing stopping us re developing the ground in restoration to 20k regardless what any business plan says. Football wise OK we drop down and play kids on a sustainable plan... I believe that is possible we recapture and rebrand the club as it should be:

The minnows of West London again the very essence that attracted so many neutral fans admiration in the past.

Yes it’s 2018 and the football industry is a **** but we are different and a trend waiting to happen imo ....delusional rubbish ?

I say no think of us as Mk1 Golf GTI or 205 GTI try buying one of those today?

In a world that buys Adidas Originals thinking that they just that there is a market

I tried getting this across how fickle the public is today.

I can see a day where tickets for our matches fetch double the face value ... we are sold out every home game and the beauty is it’s nothing to do with the football

Inventing a new reputation is easy if you believe it

Mad man? I challenge all fans now to what they really want? Another TF cash cow or the essence of why we were all drawn to QPR in the first place

Many clubs having to look at this idea to fight back at the corporate idiots.

Brentford are doing it
Millwall are still doing it

Cup games become a priority once more

On paper we have to leave LR because business tells us so ... I say bollocks to them too

Unless you have QPR blood then you can’t run our business. It’s not for sale

People forget what QPR was but there was a time ... history is everything , without the heart the head is useless.

We have a wealth of Legends to grow from

Reversed psychology works
New things are just recycled ideas

We earned our status of the past with an easy formula using cast offs from Chelsea and other London clubs

We can do anything and it’s not always about money to be effective

I say swim the other way and don’t look back

Where some see failure I smell opportunity

 

[Uber_Hoop]

Tony was like a kid in a toy shop and used his managers like experts, when of course, they lacked objectivity and were prepared to spend his money like water to give themselves a better chance of staying in a job. The classic was Hughes who, having bought Rob Green, then decided he would bring Cesar onto the books as well. Tony trusted, and was let down. A more football-experienced owner would have said no to the Cesar purchase.

Tony Fernandes seems like a decent bloke, probably too decent for football. Like you, I've reached the conclusion we'd be better off with different owners. Sure, there could probably be worse owners. Asset strippers. But that's not a great test, is it?

Completely agree. But he didn’t learn the lesson from Hughes and went and did it all over again with Redkrapp.

Gordon Gecko in Wall Street said that a fool and his money are lucky to get together in the first place. Wasn’t the fillum something to do with an airline?

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

I read somewhere an interview with Swiss Tony where he said he kept in regular contact with all the ex managers employed under his regime with the exception of Hughes who he hadn't spoken with since the day he left the club

Hughes really is a mercenary

And a nasty piece of work who holds grudges to everyone who has not seen things his way. Remember last season when he led the mob at Stoke to give Arnautovic a hard time because he left? Remember the numerous managers hands' he has refused to shake after a game? Remember his sour grapes towards Mancini because he blew a couple of hundred million as City manager without delivering any silverware or even qualifying for Europe and yet they had the cheek to replace him with someone who spent as much but got instant success? Remember how malicious the twat was a player?

I'll bet TF has tried to speak to him.

But then again, he clearly believes that we should all regret the day when he was sacked. Because he was ambitious and well on the way to delivering success. 12 games, 4 points as I recall and in hock for years to come as a result of his wisdom. Oh and I forget. He has never managed a team that has been relegated. never his fault that we would have been down by Christmas had he stayed and never his fault that Stoke got relegated last season after 8 years or so in the top flight.

 

[YorkshireHoopster]

Forgot to add, apart from these points he was the best manager we've ever had by a country mile.

 

[SW Ranger]

Forgot to add, apart from these points he was the best manager we've ever had by a country mile.

Is he by fook!!!

Werent theet lad from dan sath... ‘Arry Bedpan and his ferret dog rite good ‘til knees went and fooked up his brain?!

 

[kiwiqpr]

Steve I don't want to travel with the team Mclaren will prove to be the best manager we ever deserved

 

[Steelmonkey]

And a nasty piece of work who holds grudges to everyone who has not seen things his way. Remember last season when he led the mob at Stoke to give Arnautovic a hard time because he left? Remember the numerous managers hands' he has refused to shake after a game? Remember his sour grapes towards Mancini because he blew a couple of hundred million as City manager without delivering any silverware or even qualifying for Europe and yet they had the cheek to replace him with someone who spent as much but got instant success? Remember how malicious the twat was a player?

I'll bet TF has tried to speak to him.

But then again, he clearly believes that we should all regret the day when he was sacked. Because he was ambitious and well on the way to delivering success. 12 games, 4 points as I recall and in hock for years to come as a result of his wisdom. Oh and I forget. He has never managed a team that has been relegated. never his fault that we would have been down by Christmas had he stayed and never his fault that Stoke got relegated last season after 8 years or so in the top flight.

He left his mug on the managers desk before he was booted out.....

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