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I think it will be a combination of things.
There's a growing disillusionment with the EU right across the member states.
It could survive if it listened and changed.
Can you see it doing that?
Absolutely you should be free to feel those things and have pride in your country. Same as you should feel free to identify as whatever you feel best represents you (English, British, European). There isn't a right or wrong answer as to your own personal view or allegiance. But the sort of national identity I think you refer to clearly doesn't exist for at least half of the country and those who dont adhere to this England for the English viewpoint shouldn't be vilified for that. I do wonder who these people are who you say don't like our country because it sounds more like a Daily Mail or Express-ism than actual reality. Genuine question but what is it that makes people proud to be English? I'll confess I am not particularly patriotic and that's mainly down to the crass and unpleasant behaviour I see prevalent in a lot of English people so for me I don't feel much to be proud of. As for the land itself, that I can take pride in but I feel generally disassociated with the social attitudes of a lot of English folk and the referendum has really hammered that home.
I'm a proud Yorkshire man first and foremost. Then I'm English. Am I proud to be English. Tricky question really. I'm proud of a lot of things but just being English would be way down my list. If that's not patriotic then I obviously am not that proud of this country. I'm proud of some of our achievements and also ashamed of others.
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I'm proud to be English and sing God save the Queen. Will I sing God save the King when our next monarch accedes to the throne? No.
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I must admit I would rather England had its own anthem as I tend to think of God Save the Queen being for the UK. The only problem is that the most obvious candidates (land of hope and glory and Jerusalem) would be criticised as being out dated and imperialist. We'd then end up with some load of old cobblers penned by Ed Sheeran or Jesse Jay. Maybe it's not so bad after all!
The Queen has never been a serial adulterer. How Charles chooses to live his life is up to him, but I'm ****ed if I'm going to sing about how gracious he is
Land of Hope and Glory would be ok. If anyone asks about being "mightier yet", we can explain it refers to our economy after Brexit
Rees Mogg actually proving that he doesn't really give a **** on LBC today. Says it'll be 50 years before the benefits of Brexit are felt; so just in time for those kids who weren't old enough to vote 2 years ago who will have lived through the preceding decades of damage to then enjoy it in their 60's. This is another reason why another meaningful vote should be given consideration, the people arguably most affected should have a voice.
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You rebel you
In all seriousness they must be worried about what happens when /if he accedes. There's no real appetite for change whilst the Queens still there as I think she's widely liked and respected even by some who don't agree with the principle of monarchy. I don't see Charles being popular at all. There is the Diana effect of course but he has come across as a bit hypocritical when interfering in politics which isn't really becoming of a future monarch. William will make a decent King and I think increasingly we'll see less focus on the minor royals and move to a more Scandinavian or Benelux model which is just a bit lighter. I favour that as it makes it easier for them to have a semblance of a normal life.
Personally the thing I most respect about him is that he looks like he does and gets his leg over at all.
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"I will be the next King" is a marginally better chat up line than "I've got a place in Chingford if you're up for it"
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William will make a decent King and I think increasingly we'll see less focus on the minor royals and move to a more Scandinavian or Benelux model which is just a bit lighter. I favour that as it makes it easier for them to have a semblance of a normal life.
Yes, a more normal profile is important for the future of the monarchy. Someone has to break it to young George that he'll be living in a semi in Ealing
What utter rubbish. He stated throughout that he cares and would take responsibility whatever the outcome. he was excellent when responding to all the listeners and educated most of them.
Your post is the sort of rubbish that shows you really have no listening skills what so ever.
If true, it sounds like JRM is in line for a wee windfall when we leave the EU. Wouldnt surprise me!. Similar goings on for when our drugs minister decides if or when to legalise medicinal cannabis. Her hubby is one if not the main player in production. Stinks of corruption!
Does explain the exceptional punching on display by both his son and Harry.
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Why do you say that?
Is it because he talks posh?
That he is highly educated?
Because he voted for Brexit?
Come on give me your reasoning for your comments. A proper reason.