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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Staines R's said:
I’m beginning to think we as ‘ordinary’ people are being used as pawns and made to argue/bicker/fight against each other while the elite from BOTH sides are laughing their bollox off while they stand to get richer.....with us as losers, which ever side wins.
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I completely agree with this mate and by the way, happy birthday for yesterday.
I would just add that it appears to me, that, along with the political elite, the very rich are mostly in favour of remain.
 
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Some very contradictory polling in the Sunday Times today.

Firstly, claim that if there were a referendum on the lines that Greening suggested, Remain would Beat Leave by 54-46 after second preferences counted.

But then it asked people who they would vote for if there were new parties:
- a right wing party supporting Brexit -38%
- a centrist party supporting staying in -33%
- a hard right party which was anti Islam, anti immigration and anti EU - 24%

Why no left wing options were given is a mystery. Probably all bollocks.
 
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sb_73 said:
Some very contradictory polling in the Sunday Times today.

Firstly, claim that if there were a referendum on the lines that Greening suggested, Remain would Beat Leave by 54-46 after second preferences counted.

But then it asked people who they would vote for if there were new parties:
- a right wing party supporting Brexit -38%
- a centrist party supporting staying in -33%
- a hard right party which was anti Islam, anti immigration and anti EU - 24%

Why no left wing options were given is a mystery. Probably all bollocks.
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Does sound like a lot of bollocks. You’d hope 1 in 4 wouldn’t vote for a hard right party described as anti-Islam, immigration and the biggest trading bloc in the world.

Then again didn’t UKIP get about 15% share once?
 
West WindsR said:
Does sound like a lot of bollocks. You’d hope 1 in 4 wouldn’t vote for a hard right party described as anti-Islam, immigration and the biggest trading bloc in the world.

Then again didn’t UKIP get about 15% share once?
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62 % right or far right and supporting Brexit sounds very high too. Then again I guess if you support Brexit and are not far right you'd pick option one regardless of your politics. But 24% far right? Surely that must be wrong.
 
Dan Starkey 2 said:
62 % right or far right and supporting Brexit sounds very high too. Then again I guess if you support Brexit and are not far right you'd pick option one regardless of your politics. But 24% far right? Surely that must be wrong.
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It wouldn't surprise me that much. This country has become a very nasty place.
 
Dan Starkey 2 said:
62 % right or far right and supporting Brexit sounds very high too. Then again I guess if you support Brexit and are not far right you'd pick option one regardless of your politics. But 24% far right? Surely that must be wrong.
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I think if you are granted anonymity in stating your preference the hard right 24% is not beyond credibility. Two of the three policies are explicitly what 52% voted for in the real referendum, it’s not a stretch to bung anti Islam in as well.

Perhaps they should have worded it differently, offering a choice between:
An economically liberal, socially conservative right wing party pro Brexit
A socially liberal, mixed economy centrist party pro EU
Nazis/DUP anti everything
 
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sb_73 said:
I think if you are granted anonymity in stating your preference the hard right 24% is not beyond credibility. Two of the three policies are explicitly what 52% voted for in the real referendum, it’s not a stretch to bung anti Islam in as well.

Perhaps they should have worded it differently, offering a choice between:
An exonomically liberal, socially conservative right wing party pro Brexit
A socially liberal, mixed economy centrist party pro EU
Nazis/DUP anti everything
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Where's the left-wing option?
 
Stroller said:
Not even close.
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Why? I’m not talking about the Labour Party, I’m reflecting on serious left wing parties elsewhere
Socially conservative - there is a weird moralism about them, not great on stuff like LGBT rights. The great liberal reforms of the sixties under Labour were definitively centrist
Managed economy - goes without saying, that is socialism
Pro Brexit - unless the EU is a socialist enterprise, of course. Membership precludes proper socialism in any member states
 
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