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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Give them hell ellers
     
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  2. West London Willy

    West London Willy Well-Known Member

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    Because. Just because.

    Why should I give more ammunition to people who don’t care?
     
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  3. rangercol

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    I completely agree with this mate and by the way, happy birthday for yesterday.
    I would just add that it appears to me, that, along with the political elite, the very rich are mostly in favour of remain.
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

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    There might be a reason for that, Col.
     
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  5. Star of David Bardsley

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    More important things than money mate.
     
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  7. Star of David Bardsley

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    Without a doubt. None I can think of are likely to be improved by a flounce-off Brexit though.
     
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  8. kiwiqpr

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  10. rangercol

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    Ah, you need to think harder mate!
     
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  11. Star of David Bardsley

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    So far I’ve got health and happiness. If you can explain how Brexit will improve either of those you should be in the Cabinet.

    Even the great man of the people JRM is predicting a quick 50 years of hurt.
     
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  12. sb_73

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    Some very contradictory polling in the Sunday Times today.

    Firstly, claim that if there were a referendum on the lines that Greening suggested, Remain would Beat Leave by 54-46 after second preferences counted.

    But then it asked people who they would vote for if there were new parties:
    - a right wing party supporting Brexit -38%
    - a centrist party supporting staying in -33%
    - a hard right party which was anti Islam, anti immigration and anti EU - 24%

    Why no left wing options were given is a mystery. Probably all bollocks.
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    Does sound like a lot of bollocks. You’d hope 1 in 4 wouldn’t vote for a hard right party described as anti-Islam, immigration and the biggest trading bloc in the world.

    Then again didn’t UKIP get about 15% share once?
     
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  14. 62 % right or far right and supporting Brexit sounds very high too. Then again I guess if you support Brexit and are not far right you'd pick option one regardless of your politics. But 24% far right? Surely that must be wrong.
     
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    It wouldn't surprise me that much. This country has become a very nasty place.
     
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    I think if you are granted anonymity in stating your preference the hard right 24% is not beyond credibility. Two of the three policies are explicitly what 52% voted for in the real referendum, it’s not a stretch to bung anti Islam in as well.

    Perhaps they should have worded it differently, offering a choice between:
    An economically liberal, socially conservative right wing party pro Brexit
    A socially liberal, mixed economy centrist party pro EU
    Nazis/DUP anti everything
     
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  17. Stroller

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    Where's the left-wing option?
     
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    There isn’t one, as I said in the original post, they didn’t go further than centrist. A true left wing version would be:

    Socially conservative, managed economy party pro Brexit.

    In my opinion.
     
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    Not even close.
     
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    Why? I’m not talking about the Labour Party, I’m reflecting on serious left wing parties elsewhere
    Socially conservative - there is a weird moralism about them, not great on stuff like LGBT rights. The great liberal reforms of the sixties under Labour were definitively centrist
    Managed economy - goes without saying, that is socialism
    Pro Brexit - unless the EU is a socialist enterprise, of course. Membership precludes proper socialism in any member states
     
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