Off Topic Hull City Centre Public Realm Strategy

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Just had a look at exactly what is on at Hull Venue , I can honestly say nothing interests me at all

Raiders of the Lost Ark in concert ? Noel Fitzpatrick is the Supervet ? wtf
 
Are the cafe bars and roof terraces in Milan as busy in winter as they are in the balmy spring, hot summer and temperate autumn evenings?

Probably not I dare say.

I don’t like drinking down Princes Ave but go down there when it’s one of those hot summer nights and it is rammed up until closing. If we had a climate like that for 9 months of the year people’s dining out / drinking habits would be different, it’s not hard to work out.

Go there on a wet and windy January night and it’s a whole different story.

Instead of looking at the negatives all the time try and find something good in our dining / drinking culture.

I love eating out late at night when the weather is great but I equally love going in a country pub with an open fire for a Sunday roast when it’s raining and blowing a hooly outside.

That’s one of the reasons why I love this country and this area and don’t slag it off at every given opportunity.


As for your last snide remark?

You live in Brid for ****s sake so how you’ve got the nerve to slate Hull is beyond me.

Wind it in.
I don't know why Barchull has this hatred of Hull I'd like to know what triggered it ??
 
You were saying you would freeze to death in August in Hull. Rammed until closing time? How many places are serving food later than 9Pm or open after 11 pm nowadays?
People say we don't have the weather for outdoor cafes but the weather isn't noticably better in Belgium for example where there are squares full of outdoor dining.
I love a good meal in a country pub but our drinking and dining culture is crap. It has improved but it is still based on rushing everything and finishing early.

If they had built a bigger venue in Hull with a larger capacity like Bridlington Spa you could have attracted more hip acts like Daniel O'Donnell.<laugh>
Does the rushing element come from the days of old opening times.?
They where really draconian and used to create a slam loads of alcohol down yourself before the bell rang.
Or is it just the British way where ( especially when you're young ) you're a bigger man if you can Sup more ale than your mates ??
I known i used to fall into both categories
 
Does the rushing element come from the days of old opening times.?
They where really draconian and used to create a slam loads of alcohol down yourself before the bell rang.
Or is it just the British way where ( especially when you're young ) you're a bigger man if you can Sup more ale than your mates ??
I known i used to fall into both categories

I would say the rush thing. When I went abroad in the 60s and 70s I used to drink less despite the longer hours strangely enough. Germans drink more than we do but they consume it over a longer time so you don't see city centres of falling about piss heads.
 
I don't know why Barchull has this hatred of Hull I'd like to know what triggered it ??

I don't have a hatred of Hull. It is one of the very,very few cities I would ever live in. The only one here, the others are abroad. I do get frustrated at the attitude of too many who act like they live in a small town rather than a city and those who can see no wrong and think it is superior to everywhere else and can learn nothing from elsewhere and are dismissive of everywhere else.
 
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I don't have a hatred of Hull. It is one of the very,very few cities I would ever live in. The only one here, the others are abroad. I do get frustrated at the attitude of too many who act like they live in a small town rather than a city and those who can see no wrong and think it is superior to everywhere else and can learn nothing from elsewhere and are dismissive of everywhere else.

If I am included in the part where ' and those who can see no wrong and think it is superior to everywhere else and can learn nothing from elsewhere and are dismissive of everywhere else' let me just say this. For 30 years I worked on a variety of building sites, and inevitably you got outsiders who would immediatey trash Hull as a ****hole, many never worked on the site for longer than a week. A lot of this was based on the available boozers, but none the less that was the impression that they went home with. On my many travels with Hull City AFC, yes to Norwich, Ipswich, London (no idea how many times) Wolverhampton, Birmingham, Bolton, Carlisle, Bristol, Derby, York, others that I can't remember at the moment, I also went to Old Trafford and St James Park, not with City though. And inevitably conversations got around to where I was from, and I always got the same response, a dump. Even stopping off on motorway cafes and meeting up with other travelling supporters from a different team it was the same response.

It was this that infuriated me more than anything, the perception of Hull through, from what I could see as sheer ignorance and believing everything written in the papers. As for Leeds, as a family and an individual, I passed through the place on the way to Otley to stay with relatives for more years than I care to remember, again the piss take. But Leeds was a dump compared to Hull in the 1950's, then the motorways happened, and investment followed, Hull was left lingering for any such improvements, much like today really, Castle Street comes to mind. And I have found that to always be the case, and I have also stood up for Hull wherever I have been, part of the truth, and I'm not banging the political drum here, is that we are a political nobody, until we suddenly become important in a by-election, hence we now have the Humber Bridge thanks to a bribe by Harold Wilson/Barara Castle. Then it was back to the political wasteland to where we still are. The City Of Culture thing was one the best things to happen to Hull in I don't know how many years, after years of the afterforementioned derision of Kingston Upon Hull we had a chance to show the country, and the World if you like, a different perspective.

Did it work? I think so overall, although it hasn't stopped those who stay for a couple of nights then write articles, which lets face, are the same as all that has gone before, but not all of them. There has been a change in perception of Hull, we lost a lot of industries, and I don't just mean WW2, I remember some person on the TV say that we lost a few hundrend fishermen's jobs, oh no, it was much more than that, skilled trades employed in the servicing and maintaing the actual trawlers and all the other things needed to run the industry, like radar, vanished. I can see its faults, and those are plentiful, not just the shut up shops, that is happening all over the country, yes I do a lot of National Coach Holidays so I get around a bit, but the delay in major projects and those that appear to get the go ahead are paired down to the minimum as if those in government say 'it's only Hull so don't pay too much for something'. I could go on but it may get boring, it may already be so, but so be it, I was born in Hull and proud of it whatever people say. Hull City AFC were my team when most of my mates were Black & White or Red & White, we could be a great team, but I am not qualified to argue on the many threads that discuss such matters. That is because I have stuck to my belief that I have no right too as I am not a regular attendee these days, in fact I don't go at all now, so I don't pay my money so I have no say, or to put it another way I don't put my money where my mouth is. That is for the many of you who still do.
 
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I don't have a hatred of Hull. It is one of the very,very few cities I would ever live in. The only one here, the others are abroad. I do get frustrated at the attitude of too many who act like they live in a small town rather than a city and those who can see no wrong and think it is superior to everywhere else and can learn nothing from elsewhere and are dismissive of everywhere else.
Shocked...truly shocked........
 
If I am included in the part where ' and those who can see no wrong and think it is superior to everywhere else and can learn nothing from elsewhere and are dismissive of everywhere else' let me just say this. For 30 years I worked on a variety of building sites, and inevitably you got outsiders who would immediatey trash Hull as a ****hole, many never worked on the site for longer than a week. A lot of this was based on the available boozers, but none the less that was the impression that they went home with. On my many travels with Hull City AFC, yes to Norwich, Ipswich, London (no idea how many times) Wolverhampton, Birmingham, Bolton, Carlisle, Bristol, Derby, York, others that I can't remember at the moment, I also went to Old Trafford and St James Park, not with City though. And inevitably conversations got around to where I was from, and I always got the same response, a dump. Even stopping off on motorway cafes and meeting up with other travelling supporters from a different team it was the same response.

It was this that infuriated me more than anything, the perception of Hull through, from what I could see as sheer ignorance and believing everything written in the papers. As for Leeds, as a family and an individual, I passed through the place on the way to Otley to stay with relatives for more years than I care to remember, again the piss take. But Leeds was a dump compared to Hull in the 1950's, then the motorways happened, and investment followed, Hull was left lingering for any such improvements, much like today really, Castle Street comes to mind. And I have found that to always be the case, and I have also stood up for Hull wherever I have been, part of the truth, and I'm not banging the political drum here, is that we are a political nobody, until we suddenly become important in a by-election, hence we now have the Humber Bridge thanks to a bribe by Harold Wilson/Barara Castle. Then it was back to the political wasteland to where we still are. The City Of Culture thing was one the best things to happen to Hull in I don't know how many years, after years of the afterforementioned derision of Kingston Upon Hull we had a chance to show the country, and the World if you like, a different perspective.

Did it work? I think so overall, although it hasn't stopped those who stay for a couple of nights then write articles, which lets face, are the same as all that has gone before, but not all of them. There has been a change in perception of Hull, we lost a lot of industries, and I don't just mean WW2, I remember some person on the TV say that we lost a few hundrend fishermen's jobs, oh no, it was much more than that, skilled trades employed in the servicing and maintaing the actual trawlers and all the other things needed to run the industry, like radar, vanished. I can see its faults, and those are plentiful, not just the shut up shops, that is happening all over the country, yes I do a lot of National Coach Holidays so I get around a bit, but the delay in major projects and those that appear to get the go ahead are paired down to the minimum as if those in government say 'it's only Hull so don't pay too much for something'. I could go on but it may get boring, it may already be so, but so be it, I was born in Hull and proud of it whatever people say. Hull City AFC were my team when most of my mates were Black & White or Red & White, we could be a great team, but I am not qualified to argue on the many threads that discuss such matters. That is because I have stuck to my belief that I have no right too as I am not a regular attendee these days, in fact I don't go at all now, so I don't pay my money so I have no say, or to put it another way I don't put my money where my mouth is. That is for the many of you who still do.

Quite agree. When I worked in offices Hull a number of people who came upto cover absences from our London office applied to move up here. Mainly because of the friendliness of people.
As for Leeds, it was still a dump in the 1970s. The transformation in the area around the canals behind the station is unbelieveable. And upsetting as the same party has always been in charge in Leeds as Hull. They just seem to have more people with business sense. More use was made of them having a deputy Prime Minister there than we did,
One reason they started attracting interest was making use of Leeds United's success. Back in the 1960s not many could fly to away games, especially far flung parts of Europe like the Soviet Bloc. My uncle was a successful businessman and used to be friends wuth Harry Reynolds, the chairman, and 2 directors, .Silver and Vussins, often playing golf with them and Don Revie and went on the team pkahe with the few other supporters who could afford the time and money. Anyway, the point of all this is that there is was always someone from the Chamber Of Commerce and the council on the plane and they used to go selling the city. This started to pay off as enquiries about the city increased. I have a vision of .Geraghty explaining to bemused foreigners that Hull was a wonderful place. They don't just like their rugby league but wrestling as well (as he said when Hull was awarded C of C. People would be able to come to Hull and see what a sporting city Hull was. People didn't just love their rugby league but wrestling and dart as well).
 
Beverley, rather than Hull, but I suspect a few on here wouldn’t mind giving this new place a try...

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Looks good to me, although I do wonder if the gin market is getting a bit saturated at the moment?
Maybe not and I suppose you can always change a bar to something else if tastes change, but it wasn’t that long ago you had to work hard to get good gin...now you can’t move for newly infused artisan stuff. Some producers will lose money trying to jump onto the bandwagon I think
 
Looks good to me, although I do wonder if the gin market is getting a bit saturated at the moment?
Maybe not and I suppose you can always change a bar to something else if tastes change, but it wasn’t that long ago you had to work hard to get good gin...now you can’t move for newly infused artisan stuff. Some producers will lose money trying to jump onto the bandwagon I think

I often get saturated with gin.