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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Mar 9, 2018.

  1. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    The Trust need to get working on their response to the result whichever way it goes, the next battle is all about the media coverage.
    Unless of course announcing the result is delayed, then it will be the name change on April 2nd or the up and coming fan consultation on the logo.
     
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  2. Charon

    Charon Well-Known Member

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    and of course the important bit when away fans complain about there being no concessions and the two ****s remind them that the fans voted for it
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    It would seem that they've set nothing up for corporate members to vote.

    We don't have a reference number on our passes, so I asked this morning how I was supposed to vote and this afternoon, they've sent me a number to use.

    I've asked if every corporate member who wants to vote, has to email them and ask them for a number first. No response yet.

    Assuming they do, they can start with the a number for junior.

    Usual farce.
     
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  4. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    Yep, it encouraged me to revisit your site and it is transformed. Thanks for your correction. <ok>
     
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  5. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    You rich bastards don't need concessions...

    :bandit:
     
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  6. TheCasual

    TheCasual Well-Known Member

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    It's damed if you do, damed if you don't.

    I voted for concessions. I don't have kids or elderley relatives, but I'm voting for the principle of concessions.

    It's going to be a 22% rise, but I'm trying to think of the future of the club.

    I spoke to a few people on Saturday and lot have said they're voting for no concessions. Because they don't want to pay more. Which I get, but I think it's a slightly backwards way of thinking.
     
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  7. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    Even if peoope think that way, the west and east stands apart from the very corners will all go down in price even for adults.
     
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  8. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    They aren't going to get any. But maybe Ehab wants to minimise any chance of any voting the "wrong way".
     
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  9. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Slightly?
    FFS.
     
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  10. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    What?
    Will they ****!

    No person in East Stand that takes kids will find their group price ‘go down in price’...not one...at all
    Many people in East Stand that take young uns will find their costs go up

    Some ****ing concessions !

    EDIT- I don’t go in East Stand anymore by the way...so it’s not ‘alright jack ’ or moaning about price ****...but I did used to stand there, so they’re still my people

    Concessions my arse
     
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  11. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    Got Ya, will E mail them.
     
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  12. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    Apart from the corners, East and West were Zone 3 (£39 a month for everyone) and under the new scheme will be zone 2 (monthly prices £36/£27/18) so it's cheaper for everyone in there.
     
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  13. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    Ah
    Ok
    My mistake, apologies
    I thought East was all zone 2 already
    So it’s just the corners where everyone with kids will see their price go up then?
     
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  14. Fez

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    Simple stuff this...
    ...serves to emphasise the confusion many will have.
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Kinell didn't realise that. It's going to be a mad scramble to get out of the corners.
     
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  16. Fez

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    This is well written, but some of the thinking is puzzling:

    The New Proposal - most things are covered, except for the fact that the proposal is highly divisive and unacceptable on that basis.

    The Ballot - the votes have been worded by the club and if they are accepted and voted upon, then that is democratic. If you don't like them reject them. Once the vote has taken place the majority vote will represent the majority view of those who voted; the Trust's on going work mustn't seek to tamper with this process that they advocate.

    16500 is the key number I have seen mentioned as the potential electorate; is this agreed?

    Abstention is not dealt with or considered as an option; there is no thought given to offering an out and out rejection of the loaded offer.

    The Vote and Next Steps - the Trust clearly say that they favour a vote for the new way, so why dress that up by saying they don't believe they should tell voters which way to vote, yet they give their view, which is tantamount to advising voters seeking advice.
     
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  17. Fez

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    There's plenty of room; it'll fill the TV seats...
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    It's proposed that 80% of the East and over 50% of the West is being switched from Zone 3 to Zone 2.

    If you were in the East or West (Zone 3) with a kid last season it cost you £78 a month, now it would be £54 a month with an U14, or £63 a month with a 14 to 17 year old (the cost saving obviously increases the more kids you take, though it messed up a bit with the daft restrictions on seniors taking kids etc).

    The six half blocks that were already Zone 2 go up, from £27 to £36, so an adult with a kid in there who previously paid £54 a month, now still pays £54 a month with an U14, or sees it increase to £63 a month with a 14 to 17 year old (again it gets messier with multiple kids or seniors, due to the daft restrictions). It's actually quite a small number of seats that fall into this category.

    It's lone adults who will see the main increases, rather than people with kids (which is what you'd expect with the reintroduction of concessions).

    If they got rid of the daft restrictions on the number of kids and seniors with kids, things would look significantly better.
     
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  19. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    How do you reject them?
     
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  20. dennisboothstash

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    Nah it’s just me that’s simple this time
     
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