Those prices are ridiculous. The ground will be full of children and oap's causing a sterile atmosphere. Adults are priced out. I'll certainly be giving this one a miss.
Funny you should say that, perhaps it has... ...perhaps the meetings served a useful purpose, for someone...
Do you really think the fans are going to vote no to this? And then if the fans reject the proposed concessions what will that mean? things stay as they are? Edit re-read your post. Do you really think the fans are going to say yes to this?
Based on a lot of the comments I’ve seen online, I’m concerned that a lot of people who don’t think the concessions go far enough, aren’t going to vote at all. If the vote for concessions doesn’t win, things will obviously stay as they are.
Well I didn't think I would get a vote but apparently I do so I agree with OLM. Vote for the principle of concessions as abstention leaves the door open for him to claim a win. He won't lose either way but the principle will be established and as OLM said earlier the fight to change categories/prices will have to be for another day.
I struggle with those who argue that voting for these concessions are voting for the principle, rather than the structure and/or pricing. If your principles support marginalizing the youth and disabled element of our support then I think you should revisit them, as they pay the price of accepting this plan - and that is divisive on your behalf. The only acceptable response to this is not to vote. If the majority got behind a no-vote, the numbers could be asked to be declared and there would be a level of non- acceptance that would truly reflect people's disappointment. Of course, the numbers might use the crowd counter tool... Getting rid of apartheid wasn't done by degree of black, brown, yellow. Stick to your guns and just say no, it doesn't sit right, because it isn't right and refuse it the oxygen of legitimacy. Saying changing it is the next battle is just daft; that will only happen under new owners and that will be a whole new ball game.
The Allams are in danger of moving from the not daft department to the bloody clever one. ****s they will always be.
'Principle' is what got us in this mess in the first place. When the supporters committee stupidly unanimously agreed concessions are a matter of principle rather than affordability, they set us up for exactly this **** show. Everyone should abstain and protest to ****, this is no backing down, olive branch or anything of the sort. This is taking the piss, pure and simple. Voting for it is supporting it.
The Supporters Committee didn’t agree to any specifics, they just unanimously wanted concessions reinstated, ideally based on the model the Trust put forward.
A key point in the minutes of one of the meetings was what was so important about concessions. The committee all agreed it was just a matter of principle and was not about affordability.
Can you direct me to the minutes where it says the Committee said affordability didn’t matter, I don’t remember it?
He then asked the group if the issue was one of affordability or the principle of a concession. As an example, in 2010/11 (the first season of current ownership) for the lowest category game, an adult and two under 10s tickets cost a total of £27 (£21+£3+£3). Last season in the Premier League the same combination of fans could have attended for £27 (£9x3). So, despite seven years of inflation and a VAT increase the price in the Premier League was the same as in the Championship. The Vice-Chairman accepted that some fans would have to move to access these prices but stood by the principle that the offer of affordability exists with Zone 1 (now covering two whole stands). The Committee felt that the priority was more the principal of concession and having a clear differentiation between an adult and a concession/junior price.
