Transfer Rumours Barton?

All of this is spot on.

 

We dont need to replace him, we have enough CM'ers, Gosling is his natural replacement, HBA will be fit in 2 weeks

 

The paycut stuff was all nonsense. His agent has publicly said that they wouldn't have accepted one. If 'the lad' was that up for staying he would have signed a 2 year deal and sorted out a longer one at some point in the future.

The club lost those players because Ashley and Llambias have at least some amount of backbone, and won't let employees hold them to ransom.

Yeah and then what happens in another 3 months when he wants 70k? Then after that when he wants 100k? The club can't afford to pay wages like that. The reason the club was so financially ****ed a couple years ago was because of Shepherd handing out fat contracts.

He's already in decline as a player. Signing him to anything longer than 2 years, on the wages he gets, would be madness.

No - He doesn't want less money. Again, his agent has said they wouldn't have accepted that.

He might have stayed, but the club would definitely be a lot worse off financially for it.
It's far more likely he would have gone anyway though, and used the excuse that he wanted CL football.

 

Well thats where you wrong. The club accepted transfers for these players. You don't move without them. If liverpool had never come in for Carroll then he would still be here. If West Ham hadnt come in for Nolan he would still be here. The Club has accepted these offers and told the player to move on. Football clubs dont accpet offers anf then tell the player, but dont worry, we dont really want you to leave. Chain yourself to the radiator. Doesnt happen.

Andy Carroll was a one off special circumstance where if the club really wanted to keep him, then they should have. He was our best player and future of the club. I agree with you the club shouldnt just give in to player power, but the lad was of the understanding he would be making £80k at Liverpool, whereas he had just made the mistake of signing a deal for £35k. You telling me you would ignore it all and keep your gob shut. The fact is it didnt really matter what the boy wanted as the club wanted the money all along. Otherwise, he would still be here.

Players do not ask for contracts, if they want to leave. Simple basic logic. Even if it is for more money. Even if they are greedy. Even if they are acting unreasonable. Thats my point.

Did Fabregas and Nasri ask for contracts before the left Arsenal this week?!?!? Well?? If they did than that would have been very very strange wouldnt it?

Think about it with your logic and not bias for the club.

 

No one got a SSN link then?

 

So, erm, what's happened? He's just in talks with QPR?

 

I thought Barton kissed the badge on his shirt to pledge loyalty???????????????????

 

Don't need a replacement. Gosling,Abeid,Ben Arfa,Jonas,Marveaux and Vuckic can all play there. Now they all have a chance!!!

 

Train to london. Apparently QPR offering him a wage equal to his current one or greater.

 

They want to leave because they're not being handed these fat contracts that they don't deserve, and that the club can't afford.
Maybe they weren't 100% set on leaving, but they sure as hell weren't too bothered about staying either. They are ultimately the ones who initiated the process of leaving. They're the ones who, in the case of Nolan, Enrique, and probably soon to be Barton, rejected the contracts they were offered. With Carroll, he demanded a significant wage rise and put in a transfer request when he was denied it.

The fault for these happenings doesn't lie with Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias. It lies with the players.

 

I agree with pretty much everything you're saying. If people got passed the blind hate for Carroll I think it's pretty obvious.
Redknapp (after having had talks with Ashley) said that he would cost too much 'something like £30 million'.
After the transfer he came out and said clubs always make them hand in a transfer request to make it look like their fault not the club's.
Now you might not like Redknapp but he knows the ins and outs of English football better than any Football Manager on here.
Added to the fact that we had a chopper conveniently waiting, that Nolan and Carroll said he was forced out and that the club are one of the most deceitful in the country and to me it's obvious that although he might have been part of the transfer he certainly wasn't the big bad wolf the club made him out to be.

 

Yep. The deal is he has to last longer than Kieran Dyeron on the pitch to earn £60k per week.

 

Because they want him to go, because they want the ridiculous £35mil.

I actually agreed with the transfer of £35m, as long as it was reinvested. Its the b*llocks lies of transfer requests that make me sick. Why damage the players name just before he leaves? Why? Derek Llam has already contradicted himself on the transfer in interviews. We know he lies. Hes doing again.

 

what is happening?

 

Good point! I'd probably play Marveaux or Gosling and keep Ben Arfa in an AMF/off the striker role.

 

Read the ****ing news and work it out for yourself you thick ****.

 

Anyone else wonder why David Craig would be riding a train down to London? Isn't he SSN North East reporter?! Surely one of the many London based SSN reporters could be at Kings Cross or at Loftus Road, when Barton arrives?

All seems a bit weird to me.

 

Exactly. Finally someone else who's digged into this 'conspiracy' as much as I did. The facts were actually around at the time and afterwards. Not to mention the quotes from John W. Henry on the deal which proved NUFC were in total control of the whole thing.

Well said that man.

 

**** you you little ****.
17 pages of text to read through?.
**** off.

 

Joey go to London to speak with Wazzock.