Transfer Rumours Barton?

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Bit strange Sedgewick on the train with David Craig as well??

Sedwick just Tweeting:
davidsedgwickNE David Sedgwick
by MsiDouglas
Joey Barton is now in London, looks like he is getting a lift with SSN David Craig. Been told there is a TV crew outside the station.


Seems all very setup
 
skalpel said:
He was given a new contract proving the club wanted him to stay, then he handed in a transfer request proving he didn't want to stay. Not sure how much more obvious this needs to be.
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Llambias requested he handed it in whilst he was on the chopper already going to Liverpool after being told he was going and thats it.

The deal got accepted.....he left on the chopper.....suddenly got rejected....a transfer request suddenly came about....and then got accepted again.........All when AC was already on his way...!!

As stupid as this all sounds, the events of the day happened because I remember following it all day long.

Carroll says this happened also and I believe him. He aint that clever to come up with a story like this. Where as Derek L is capable of coming up with ANYTHING.
 
Sorry Bano, but you're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist now.
Also regarding your remark about him willing to accept a paycut, he had previously said that but then his agent (Willie McKay) directly contradicted him by saying the opposite.
Yes our club are court proven liars but that doesn't mean you should be as naive to think that others including players can lie to us, the fans, too (god knows they do it with the whole badge kissing ****e anyway).
 
NufcBano said:
Llambias requested he handed it in whilst he was on the chopper already going to Liverpool after being told he was going and thats it.

The deal got accepted.....he left on the chopper.....suddenly got rejected....a transfer request suddenly came about....and then got accepted again.........All when AC was already on his way...!!

As stupid as this all sounds, the events of the day happened because I remember following it all day long.

Carroll says this happened also and I believe him. He aint that clever to come up with a story like this. Where as Derek L is capable of coming up with ANYTHING.
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Ah, I see. I forgot that people immediately do exactly what Llambias tells them even if it goes against everything they want and firmly believe in.
 
SirBR said:
Bit strange Sedgewick on the train with David Craig as well??

Sedwick just Tweeting:
davidsedgwickNE David Sedgwick
by MsiDouglas
Joey Barton is now in London, looks like he is getting a lift with SSN David Craig. Been told there is a TV crew outside the station.


Seems all very setup
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Was just thinking this.

It all seems a bit public and a bit set up... Travelling alone (at least his agent or advisors weren't reported to be with him) on a train with 2 journalists and with a TV crew waiting for him in London... Something's not right here at all unless it has all been finalised already. I doubt this would happen if he was purely just going down to listen to an offer.
 
I hope that people start to lay off Carroll now they've finally realized what tits Ashley and Lambarse are.

At the end of the day if you're offered 80k a week and a chance to play in the CL soon enough, you're gonna take it.

There's no such thing as 100% loyalty in football anymore. I don't blame Carroll for leaving.

We should have matched what he was going to get at Liverpool if we really wanted to keep him.

Shearer wouldn't have stayed for 50k a week, i guarantee it, especially if Newcastle were mid-table and were selling their best players.
 
skalpel said:
Ah, I see. I forgot that people immediately do exactly what Llambias tells them even if it goes against everything they want and firmly believe in.
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When you have basically been told you have no future at the club and you are no longer wanted; but in order for the deal to go through we need a 'transfer request'; you aren't gonna tell the pilot to 'Turn this chopper round!' like some free thinking, vigilante. Did he want to go to Liverpool for £80k a week, absolutely. Would he have rather stayed here, absolutely.
Thats the point.

Carroll, Nolan and soon to be Barton have all took the second best option as the first prize was not available to them.
 
NufcBano said:
The breakdown was actually he wanted 3 more years but the club only offered 2. As pathetic and petty as this may sound, its actually what happened. The lad even wanted a pay cut to stay. If that isnt proof he wanted to stay, I dont know what is. The club are pathetic on contracts. We have lost 3 first team, important players for the sake of what?? Pride?

So what if Carroll wanted a new deal 3 months after he signed a £35k a week deal, give him a £50k a week deal and say thats it. Move on.
So what if Nolan wanted a 3 year extension. Negotiate. He still had 2 years left. Keep him for those 2 years and see if something can be worked out. He only lef for £4million. Not a lot is it?
So what if Barton wanted a 3 year deal. He wants less money, just give him it and move on.

Totally pathetic.

Enrique would still be here also if all of the above happened.
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I actually don't agree with that at all. I don't think the club should be held to ransom by the players. They get paid enough that if the *really* want to play for a club (like most of them say they do) they can be the ones to "just take him" (to paraphrase your message) - why should the club *always* have to bow to the players will?

Why should the club just give in to them? We obviously have a strategy in place for our future dealings - we buy young and promising, get the lads in on long term, low pay contracts; and then build a solid financial footing from there. A la Arsenal.

Ok, you might not like it. And maybe the shinanigans at Arsenal right now are showing that it maybe isn't the easiest policy to make work. But IMO, it is a damn sight better than what we had under FFS.

All of the players could have stayed at the Toon if they had wanted too. They all still had contracts, and all they had to do is not talk to the other clubs. The players chose to leave, and i don't take any of this "they were forced out bullshit"

Barton can stay, Barton can go. The Toon will move on, and so will I.
 
ToonSi said:
Sorry Bano, but you're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist now.
Also regarding your remark about him willing to accept a paycut, he had previously said that but then his agent (Willie McKay) directly contradicted him by saying the opposite.
Yes our club are court proven liars but that doesn't mean you should be as naive to think that others including players can lie to us, the fans, too (god knows they do it with the whole badge kissing ****e anyway).
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Im not actually. I dont think Elvis is alive, the moon landings were fake, and there were 3 gunmen who killed JFK (i wish it were joe f. kinnear)

Its just the pathetic way Llambias and Ashley work. Because it may sound far fetched doesnt mean it didint happen.

All of the players who we are talking about ALL wanted contracts to stay. ALL of them. Giving the fact it may be money, or length of contract, or whatever it may be. They have been sold by the club against there No.1, first choice, wishes.

Those are the facts.

Whether we agree with the clubs stance in selling them is another issue.
 
expat_mag said:
I actually don't agree with that at all. I don't think the club should be held to ransom by the players. They get paid enough that if the *really* want to play for a club (like most of them say they do) they can be the ones to "just take him" (to paraphrase your message) - why should the club *always* have to bow to the players will?

Why should the club just give in to them? We obviously have a strategy in place for our future dealings - we buy young and promising, get the lads in on long term, low pay contracts; and then build a solid financial footing from there. A la Arsenal.

Ok, you might not like it. And maybe the shinanigans at Arsenal right now are showing that it maybe isn't the easiest policy to make work. But IMO, it is a damn sight better than what we had under FFS.

All of the players could have stayed at the Toon if they had wanted too. They all still had contracts, and all they had to do is not talk to the other clubs. The players chose to leave, and i don't take any of this "they were forced out bullshit"

Barton can stay, Barton can go. The Toon will move on, and so will I.
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I agree.
 
NufcBano said:
When you have basically been told you have no future at the club and you are no longer wanted; but in order for the deal to go through we need a 'transfer request'; you aren't gonna tell the pilot to 'Turn this chopper round!' like some free thinking, vigilante. Did he want to go to Liverpool for £80k a week, absolutely. Would he have rather stayed here, absolutely.
Thats the point.

Carroll, Nolan and soon to be Barton have all took the second best option as the first prize was not available to them.
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Why would the club say he has no future at the club after he came through the youth team and be came one of the big players of the season!!!!!

Had he stayed he would have been a legend in his home town, and they are hardly going to stick him in the reserves are they.

Admittedly £35 million is a stupid amount to turn down as is £80K a week, but no place at the club sounds total bollcok mate.
 
This situation isnt going to help the media go cold-turkey on what is clearly the chronic illness of Bartonitious, any situation in football will now be related to Barton over the next week!
 
Heavy Metal Toon said:
I hope that people start to lay off Carroll now they've finally realized what tits Ashley and Lambarse are.

Yes they are tits and always have been tits but that doesn't excuse Carroll's "I only ever want to play for NUFC"/"The No.9 shirt is a dream come true"/"I can't imagine playing anywhere else" bollocks which is a massive reason why people are laying into Carroll.

At the end of the day if you're offered 80k a week and a chance to play in the CL soon enough, you're gonna take it.

See above point

There's no such thing as 100% loyalty in football anymore. I don't blame Carroll for leaving.

We should have matched what he was going to get at Liverpool if we really wanted to keep him.

Could go into why this is a bad idea but seeing as you don't agree with the wage cap and want our wages:turnover ratio to be massive there wouldn't be much of a point

Shearer wouldn't have stayed for 50k a week, i guarantee it, especially if Newcastle were mid-table and were selling their best players.

Shearer played under different owners who were willing to throw money around...Guarantee this is a moot point as he was probably (I'm speculating here) the highest earner at the club so £50k p/w would have been a huge drop for him whereas for Carroll it was an increase.
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