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Interesting interview on France 2 with Theresa May, in which she said that knowing the issues she would not vote to leave the EU. Strange that someone close to what is going on knows less than those who inhabit the comments sections of the Daily Comics.
 
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wear_yellow said:
How would you know if those countries have the same issues? How much time have you spent in Italy? I lived in Milan for 6 months and travelled there and Madrid for nearly 2 years either side of that more than 20 years ago. Even then there were parts of Milan that were almost no-go areas because of Albanian and Romanian criminal gangs - my favourite restaurant in Milan even had security on the car park because of break in's and car jacking. Taxi drivers used to jump some traffic lights because they tried to break in and steal your lap-top bag.
But carry on implying that SH is a Nazi, abuse by the Liberal Lefty Clique on here is OK - the admin on here say nothing when one of you calls SH a c***
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W_Y, before springing in here firing in every direction you should know that SH. was the first to call any other poster on here a c***, for which no apology has ever been received. All in all he has insulted about 10 different posters on here - all you have seen is some of the retaliation. Yes, I do know Italy quite well having lived in Europe for the last 28 years. Other countries also have larger populations of people from Rumania than the UK. does, without the attendant problems. I resent the introduction of inflammatory material designed to defame a whole nationality, simply because there are a few rotten apples amongst them. Would you attack the whole English people because of the behaviour of a few football fans ? I don't think so - so why do it with other nationalities ? This type of stereotyping is exactly what racism is all about - and the magnifying of deviant behaviour by a few so as to be somehow representative of the whole group is exactly the technique used by Nazis.
 
colognehornet said:
W_Y, before springing in here firing in every direction you should know that SH. was the first to call any other poster on here a c***, for which no apology has ever been received. All in all he has insulted about 10 different posters on here - all you have seen is some of the retaliation. Yes, I do know Italy quite well having lived in Europe for the last 28 years. Other countries also have larger populations of people from Rumania than the UK. does, without the attendant problems. I resent the introduction of inflammatory material designed to defame a whole nationality, simply because there are a few rotten apples amongst them. Would you attack the whole English people because of the behaviour of a few football fans ? I don't think so - so why do it with other nationalities ? This type of stereotyping is exactly what racism is all about - and the magnifying of deviant behaviour by a few so as to be somehow representative of the whole group is exactly the technique used by Nazis.
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One again you are spinning incorrect facts. It was Lenny that called SH a c*** on here - Lenny was quite apologetic for that (SH called him out too many times for my liking on that as well).
So you know Italy quite well? - how long have you spend there? As usual you dismiss my experience in Italy withs some vague comment about living in Europe
How do you know the break-down of Romanians in other countries - with free movement across the EU, there can be no accurate figures. The reason there are so many in Italy is purely based on language - there were more in Spain but 1000's got deported and most went to Italy.
SH never attacked the whole of the Romanians in the UK, he pasted a link where a local Police force are highlighting the impact of prostitutes from Romanian on the local population. I don't suppose you would see that living in your commune, your carrot patch would not notice kerb crawlers driving up and down looking for a quick BJ outside the commune.
 
Cologne would you like to apologise for your incorrect slur. I have never used that kind of language although it has been used against me.
 
wear_yellow said:
One again you are spinning incorrect facts. It was Lenny that called SH a c*** on here - Lenny was quite apologetic for that (SH called him out too many times for my liking on that as well).
So you know Italy quite well? - how long have you spend there? As usual you dismiss my experience in Italy withs some vague comment about living in Europe
How do you know the break-down of Romanians in other countries - with free movement across the EU, there can be no accurate figures. The reason there are so many in Italy is purely based on language - there were more in Spain but 1000's got deported and most went to Italy.
SH never attacked the whole of the Romanians in the UK, he pasted a link where a local Police force are highlighting the impact of prostitutes from Romanian on the local population. I don't suppose you would see that living in your commune, your carrot patch would not notice kerb crawlers driving up and down looking for a quick BJ outside the commune.
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I don't live in a commune W_Y. I live in a country which has the second highest foreign born population in the World - just over 12 million. This does not include the second and third generation migrants. Germany has three times as many Rumanians as the UK. does. I also lived in Hamburg for about 20 years - around 3km from the Reeperbahn. I now live just outside of Germany's 4th largest city - which also has the third highest percentage of immigrants compared to other German cities (only Duisburg and Stuttgart are higher). The school where I taught had 16 different nationalities in my class. So less of the 'carrot patch' comments please (although I do confess to growing them !). My connection to Italy was a romantic connection many years ago - not very extensive I agree but. Italy has only 2 million foreign born residents compared to Germany's 12 million and if they have a problem with that then I would suggest this has more to do with Italy itself than with the immigrants - the same applies to Britain.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
Interesting interview on France 2 with Theresa May, in which she said that knowing the issues she would not vote to leave the EU. Strange that someone close to what is going on knows less than those who inhabit the comments sections of the Daily Comics.
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She was actually non committal saying she would'look at the issue'.
 
colognehornet said:
I don't live in a commune W_Y. I live in a country which has the second highest foreign born population in the World - just over 12 million. This does not include the second and third generation migrants. Germany has three times as many Rumanians as the UK. does. I also lived in Hamburg for about 20 years - around 3km from the Reeperbahn. I now live just outside of Germany's 4th largest city - which also has the third highest percentage of immigrants compared to other German cities (only Duisburg and Stuttgart are higher). The school where I taught had 16 different nationalities in my class. So less of the 'carrot patch' comments please (although I do confess to growing them !). My connection to Italy was a romantic connection many years ago - not very extensive I agree but. Italy has only 2 million foreign born residents compared to Germany's 12 million and if they have a problem with that then I would suggest this has more to do with Italy itself than with the immigrants - the same applies to Britain.
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The UK does noted foreign gangs operated here, I look forward to the time when it becomes easier to depot these scumbags.
 
superhorns said:
She was actually non committal saying she would'look at the issue'.
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She is non committal on most things, but body language can tell you quite a lot. She actually indicated that nothing has changed to make her change her mind that remaining in the EU was the best thing for the country.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
She is non committal on most things, but body language can tell you quite a lot. She actually indicated that nothing has changed to make her change her mind that remaining in the EU was the best thing for the country.
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So you admit your statement is incorrect, she did not say that at all. It smacks at desperation when you have to make things up.
 
superhorns said:
So you admit your statement is incorrect, she did not say that at all. It smacks at desperation when you have to make things up.
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What are you talking about? I did not say anything different in the second post to the first. She said that nothing had happened to make her change her mind. I take it you were tuned in to TF2?
 
superhorns said:
That is a cowardly lie.

You really are scraping the barrel now.
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There is no lie involved here SH. nor is cowardice a particular quality of mine. It is quite a while back I admit, but I have never seen an apology for it. Nor have I ever seen an apology for any insult you have hurled out to anyone else - so don't expect one from me for telling the truth. Your only purpose in coming on this board is to goad other posters looking for a response of some description - why, I don't know, only you can know that.
 
colognehornet said:
There is no lie involved here SH. nor is cowardice a particular quality of mine. It is quite a while back I admit, but I have never seen an apology for it. Nor have I ever seen an apology for any insult you have hurled out to anyone else - so don't expect one from me for telling the truth. Your only purpose in coming on this board is to goad other posters looking for a response of some description - why, I don't know, only you can know that.
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You are 100% wrong. You are either a liar or a fool. You are welcome to look back in my posts, you will not find it. You have seriously gone down in my estimation.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
What are you talking about? I did not say anything different in the second post to the first. She said that nothing had happened to make her change her mind. I take it you were tuned in to TF2?
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Wrong, she did not say that. She said, "I didn't say how I would vote" then "If a vote was to come up, I would do what I did last time round which was sit down and look carefully at the issues" Followed by "But there isn't going to be another vote, so this is not an issue"

You need to tune in a bit more carefully to get the proper message.
 
I may be wrong on this, and if I am accused of ignoring the result of a democratic vote so be it, but would the country be as divided on this issue if there had been a statement before the referendum stating that we would only leave if the percentage of those wanting to leave was at least that voting to stay in 1975 after entry in 1975, which was 67.2%.
If, and I appreciate it is unlikely, then the Channel Islands should be included in any second referendum:"The definition of United Kingdom in the British Nationality Act 1981 is interpreted as including the UK and the Islands together.The European Commission confirmed in a written reply to the European Parliament in 2003 that Jersey is within the Union as a European Territory for whose external relationships the UK is responsible. Jersey is not fully part of the European Union but has a special relationship with it, notably being treated as within the European Community for the purposes of free trade in goods". Technically, as the islands were excluded from the referendum, could the vote be classed as unlawful, and therefore null and void? I appreciate that there is the obvious answer that the CI has no representation in Westminster, but neither does Gibraltar, and they were able to vote on the issue.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
Interesting interview on France 2 with Theresa May, in which she said that knowing the issues she would not vote to leave the EU. Strange that someone close to what is going on knows less than those who inhabit the comments sections of the Daily Comics.
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This sums a lot of the situation... most people in government ( whatever party) and industry plus scientists, educators, bankers etc who actually work on the coal face in these issues so to speak see massive problems in leaving.

Better to stay in and reform IMO but too late for expousing that rhetoric.
 
Jsybarry said:
I may be wrong on this, and if I am accused of ignoring the result of a democratic vote so be it, but would the country be as divided on this issue if there had been a statement before the referendum stating that we would only leave if the percentage of those wanting to leave was at least that voting to stay in 1975 after entry in 1975, which was 67.2%.
If, and I appreciate it is unlikely, then the Channel Islands should be included in any second referendum:"The definition of United Kingdom in the British Nationality Act 1981 is interpreted as including the UK and the Islands together.The European Commission confirmed in a written reply to the European Parliament in 2003 that Jersey is within the Union as a European Territory for whose external relationships the UK is responsible. Jersey is not fully part of the European Union but has a special relationship with it, notably being treated as within the European Community for the purposes of free trade in goods". Technically, as the islands were excluded from the referendum, could the vote be classed as unlawful, and therefore null and void? I appreciate that there is the obvious answer that the CI has no representation in Westminster, but neither does Gibraltar, and they were able to vote on the issue.
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The 51-49 factor was IMO really daft as we have now a split country.... and very strong differences of opinion. I dont know in the UK why we have always gone for a first past the post voting system. I have always favoured a version of PR which leads to a more moderate centrist government representative of more of the country. (There you go i am not of the left am I ! Leo was always trying to get me to admit to being left, but i really find such labels unhelpful)
 
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yorkshirehornet said:
SH you have just called someone a liar and a fool! I dont know why you plead innocence when you give as good as you get and continue to post goading and inflammatory remarks...
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I was accused of insulting somebody using the C word. This is not true. However it has been used against me a couple of times. What you call inflammatory remarks is normally a correction of the biased stuff posted by your little clique. There is an unwritten rule on here that only anti Brexit and anti Tory material can be posted.

Several posters (mostly those that have given up and left) have called for a more diverse degree of opinion to be tolerated. The clique have shown this will not be allowed to happen. No wonder new posters shy away from commenting when they see the aggression from certain members.

It is not too late for Cologne to admit he made a mistake then I am quite happy to withdraw my description. Although he is part of the clique he normally offers a well balanced view, worth reading.
 
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