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luvgonzo said:
The ****er sang that he wished he could fly away. Harris should be brought to justice. We haven't even touched on the fact he called the monkey cuddles.
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Never mind Harris, Roman Polanski still evades justice. Hollywood thinks he should be forgiven for drugging and raping a 13 year old in the bottom
 
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PhheHdee said:
Never mind Harris, Roman Polanski still evades justice. Hollywood thinks he should be forgiven for drugging and raping a 13 year old in the bottom
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He is supposed to have done similar things whilst living in exile from the USA. I can remember reading a biography about him, which included the rape of the 13 year old whose mother delivered her to him as she wanted her to be a famous actress and thought he would help her career, he did have a rough time of it when he was a kid growing up in the Warsaw ghetto. That is no excuse fro him being a peado though. If he goes back to the USA he should be locked up for a long time.
 
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Graham Rix walked into a job at Chelsea hours after his releasee from jail for having sex with a 15 yr old girl.
Strange how he was immediately allowed to work in an environment were he crossed paths every day with young academy players.
 
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FSG's Last Stand said:
Graham Rix walked into a job at Chelsea hours after his releasee from jail for having sex with a 15 yr old girl.
Strange how he was immediately allowed to work in an environment were he crossed paths every day with young academy players.
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Different case, she was about 3 weeks from being over the age of legal consent.
 
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Garlic Klopp said:
He is supposed to have done similar things whilst living in exile from the USA. I can remember reading a biography about him, which included the rape of the 13 year old whose mother delivered her to him as she wanted her to be a famous actress and thought he would help her career, he did have a rough time of it when he was a kid growing up in the Warsaw ghetto. That is no excuse fro him being a peado though. If he goes back to the USA he should be locked up for a long time.
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Jesus, mother delivered her to him!! Sounds like the mother was concerned about her own status and wealth and not her daughter's career, she should have been done too.
 
FSG's Last Stand said:
So, she was still legally 15 yes old then?

He was 41, he is a ***** and wouldn't have just got 6 months in this day and age.
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Legally he committed an offence, yes. guilty yes.

But lets not be silly. The difference between someone biologically and mentally at 15 years and 49 weeks old, and 15 years and 52 weeks old, relatively 0.

Yes he was 41, yes it was illegal, yes it is creepy to me as a 44 year old. But **** is stretching it a bit imo.
 
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PhheHdee said:
Legally he committed an offence, yes. guilty yes.

But lets not be silly. The difference between someone biologically and mentally at 15 years and 49 weeks old, and 15 years and 52 weeks old, relatively 0.

Yes he was 41, yes it was illegal, yes it is creepy to me as a 44 year old. But **** is stretching it a bit imo.
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That is apparently what he did:emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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PhheHdee said:
Legally he committed an offence, yes. guilty yes.

But lets not be silly. The difference between someone biologically and mentally at 15 years and 49 weeks old, and 15 years and 52 weeks old, relatively 0.

Yes he was 41, yes it was illegal, yes it is creepy to me as a 44 year old. But **** is stretching it.
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If she was your 15 yr old daughter/sister i reckon your view would be completely different.<laugh>

If she'd have been my daughter he wouldn't have seen his 42nd birthday.:emoticon-0105-wink:
 
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FSG's Last Stand said:
If she was your 15 yr old daughter/sister i reckon your view would be completely different.<laugh>

If she'd have been my daughter he wouldn't have seen his 42nd birthday.:emoticon-0105-wink:
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If she was my 15 year old daughter, she would not have been in that situation mate. I get your feelings on this, I have a daughter, she wont be hanging around with footballers at 15 I guarantee you.

Emotion doesn't change the fact that there was literally no difference between 15 years 49 weeks and 15 years 52 weeks/

I am just saying I don't think he was a ****, he used his position to exploit someone who he should have been protecting.
 
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PhheHdee said:
If she was my 15 year old daughter, she would not have been in that situation mate. I get your feelings on this, I have a daughter, she wont be hanging around with footballers at 15 I guarantee you.

Emotion doesn't change the fact that there was literally no difference between 15 years 49 weeks and 15 years 52 weeks/

I am just saying I don't think he was a ****, he used his position to exploit someone who he should have been protecting.
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Ok, he was a groomer then!
 
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PhheHdee said:
If she was my 15 year old daughter, she would not have been in that situation mate. I get your feelings on this, I have a daughter, she wont be hanging around with footballers at 15 I guarantee you.

Emotion doesn't change the fact that there was literally no difference between 15 years 49 weeks and 15 years 52 weeks/

I am just saying I don't think he was a ****, he used his position to exploit someone who he should have been protecting.
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So, he exploited an underage girl into having sex with him?, even if she was 16 child exploitation is a legal no no, the age of consent is lower than the age of adulthood,
Grooming they call it, as you can see we ain't gonna agree so it's better left alone, but you're welcome to your opinion.<ok>
 
Garlic Klopp said:
Ok, he was a groomer then!
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I don't think so, seems to have been an on the night thing, sauced, and he got seriously pervy. ewww.

They didn't go light on him either, rightfully so, as it only opens the door to others who are eyeing minors, and no one wants to open a debate about "how much time between then and age of consent, and I agree.

I am just saying that I don't think he was a **** and certainly not a groomer, yet man at Sunderland was a groomer, what's his face, Johnson. He was prepping the girl for some **** stuff over time, knew what he was doing, wasn't a spur of the moment sort of thing
 
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