Holgate and Firmino incident !

However, that left Holgate incensed and as he was restrained by his team-mates, television footage showed him making a serious racial allegation of Firmino. The incident was discussed by Madley and fourth official Jon Moss on the touchline.

After the game, Holgate spoke to Madley independently, as did Everton Director of Football Steve Walsh. The matter will now be in the hands of the FA, once Madley has submitted his report.

Everton manager Sam Allardyce refused to shed specific light on what happened but said: said: I'm telling you nothing until whatever systems are used to find out what happened. I'm here to talk about football. Football is my life and anything outside that has to be dealt with by the authorities.

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can someone please call the police.

holgate is guilty of assault.

 

I think btw when the mikes are examined

Steve Walsh and holgate should be sued for wrongly playing the race card cos being called the son of a motherless whore is not racist.

 

for the record.


Firmino appears to have said: “Ce ta Louco? Ce ta Louco? Filho da puta.”

this translates from Portuguese to: ‘Are you crazy? Are you crazy? Son of a whore.’

everyone on the planet can see that.

the story moves on and says holgate actually reacts to the exact moment adam lallana moves in front of the camera and the story now is firmino said the n word.

very convienent of course no camera to lip read.

 

When do we get the t shirts?

 

the camera angle on it shows after the put a ****e that lallana is pulling firmino away and kenny's fat head is bang in the way so what holgate reacted to canbonly be a short phrase. refs mike may have heard it but is it recorded?

Imo this will come down to a he said she said thing unless another angle can be found... it's bbc cameras so prob not. sky would have it and sent to fa with execution order by now

 

lessob.

lay down, hold head like you are shot.

never react to scum.

 

yeah.... no..

 

Well riley introduced recording after clattenburg accusations so will be strange if the entire convo wasn't picked up. Only 1 foot away.

Also be strange, not impossible for firmino to rant away in Portuguese then say one word in English as I doubt Holgate knows the Portuguese for the N word.

And surely no player no matter how mad would say it with ref facing you one foot away??? If he did he deserves banning for bring literally braindead neverrmind racist lol.

Will be ironic if it was all "a misunderstanding" and then Holgate gets banned for the uncovered homophobic tweets lol.

 

Also found this screenshot on Twitter. Dunno if it's real, doesn't exist on the site now but strange if it was.

 

I've seen enough. Frank you're in charge of his defence. I've spoken to Suarez and he's happy to be a character witness.

 

Dunno mate.

You know Twitter and rags online sites. It definitely looks like the mirror website opened within Twitter. If it's real I wonder where they got that info from bevause it's not what their online site says now in any if the match stories.

So either a fast made fake, the mirror got duff info and corrected or I don't know.....

 

Actually no it's still a live link so really bizarre.

Either Maddock made this up...someone's made **** up???? Alternate universes lol

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...virgil-11804539.amp?__twitter_impression=true

 

let's face it...

the n word sounds the same in most languages.

as the camera angle we can see due to crap BBC covers the face of firmino in the second needed we need the refs Mike recording.

but let's be clear. one way or other a transcript of Mike must be published. we must be clear that if a racial slur was used or not.

the son of a whore stuff is common place and is unpunished every week.

but right now either

a) holgate was racially abused
b) he was not.

We cannot go backing our own young lad and savage everton's mindless cretin who got every very lucky to stay on the pitch if there is a racial slur. that's double standards.

We need the fa to publish and not take weeks to do so.

 

nahhh mate. YouTube shows the put a stuff clearly. the fat head of young Kenny from Everton is right in way at the moment holgate actually does his jaw drop so we don't see that couple of words spoken to lip read.

unless there's another camera angle we are down to Mikes.

 

Hey we've learned the hard way anything's possible. Especially with footballers.

I'm just confused that one reporter got info that it was a misunderstanding and sorted at half time but everything else suggests it's still ongoing?

Where'd he get his info from?

If The recording plays with firmino saying it in any language....off he can trot.

Point of interest though. The Portuguese version begins with a C and doesn't resemble remotely the N word.

As I said not impossible he switched languages to get his insult across.... dumb as **** if he did one foot away from ref lol

 

See update post below that one. Links real

 

oh and the mirror called holgate display "impressive"

If he had been playing on any other game the ref would book him for pen call and deffo min book him for pushing player into crowd.


examples.

from initial twitter. the issue is they are so eager to get a story out as the mirror competes with sky etc that they put anything out then sneakily change it and never admit having it wrong in first place.

We need a clarity and rapid process here not a 6 week court case approach like the Terry and Suarez stuff.

they can deal with a missed red for Austin in 24 hours. get on with it now.

If firmino guilty then get him punished.

If he's not then holgate is in wrong.

 

That will stop all speculation and the rags will have no pot to stir. That can't be allowed. There must be a witch hunt, we all want to see how a Thai ladboy from Brazil calling a black lad from Yorkshire a nigga pans out.

 

not sure I can see the link you are talking about.