Good to see some sensible posts......

[Billy Death]

Thing is MrR his roots and the derbies aren't my reasons.
My reasons are I don't think he is a good manager.
The win at Chelsea last year was brilliant.
It had nothing to do with Bruce's tactics it was individuals going out and giving their all.
Some of our other wins were lucky and again not down to any brilliance on Bruce's part.
It is the losses that clearly show his lack of managerial skill.

nOt my reasons ether mate, i just pissed.

 

[MackemsRule]

It's not an argument at all. It is actually a fact.
You can speculate how we were lucky this and dreadful collapse that all you like.
After all the teams in the league played each other twice. I believe we have finished.....16th.....13th.....10th.....
Improvement! No?

Improvement if we were their comfortably yes! ( Which it should have been the money spent)
Being their by the skin of our teeth no!

 

[CyprusMackem]

Thing is MrR his roots and the derbies aren't my reasons.
My reasons are I don't think he is a good manager.
The win at Chelsea last year was brilliant.
It had nothing to do with Bruce's tactics it was individuals going out and giving their all.
Some of our other wins were lucky and again not down to any brilliance on Bruce's part.
It is the losses that clearly show his lack of managerial skill.

So if we win it's got nothing to do with Brucey's tactics. Loose and it's all his fault????

Poor blokes ****ed with logic like that.

 

[Poyet's Eleven]

Thing is MrR his roots and the derbies aren't my reasons.
My reasons are I don't think he is a good manager.
The win at Chelsea last year was brilliant.
It had nothing to do with Bruce's tactics it was individuals going out and giving their all.
Some of our other wins were lucky and again not down to any brilliance on Bruce's part.
It is the losses that clearly show his lack of managerial skill.

So if we win it's got nothing to do with Brucey's tactics. Loose and it's all his fault????

Poor blokes ****ed with logic like that.

Agree with that mate. Bruce imo got his tactics spot on vs Chelsea.

 

[Disco]

Agree with that mate. Bruce imo got his tactics spot on vs Chelsea.

Cyprus is right like. I didn't hear him get any credit for Chelsea, to use an example mentioned.

It was all about Asamoah, Welbeck, Onuoha, Hendo and Ricco. No mention of how he set it out.

 

[Poyet's Eleven]

Agree with that mate. Bruce imo got his tactics spot on vs Chelsea.

Cyprus is right like. I didn't hear him get any credit for Chelsea, to use an example mentioned.

It was all about Asamoah, Welbeck, Onuoha, Hendo and Ricco. No mention of how he set it out.

 

[MackemsRule]

So if we win it's got nothing to do with Brucey's tactics. Loose and it's all his fault????

Poor blokes ****ed with logic like that.

If you're going to be pedantic with me please don't twist my words.
Having lucky wins ( Chelsea apart) does not make him a tactical genius, it makes him lucky.

I shall repeat my last sentence.
"It is the losses that clearly show his lack of managerial skill."

 

[CyprusMackem]

Improvement if we were their comfortably yes! ( Which it should have been the money spent)
Being their by the skin of our teeth no!

Cut the **** mate. Improvement is improvement. You obviously have it in for Bruce.
Fact is you make your own luck in this world.
As for money spent. Bruce has had next to nothing in today's terms. yet he's turned a group of over paid Irish misfits into the best squad I've seen at Sunderland.

 

[CyprusMackem]

Thing is MrR his roots and the derbies aren't my reasons.
My reasons are I don't think he is a good manager.
The win at Chelsea last year was brilliant.
It had nothing to do with Bruce's tactics it was individuals going out and giving their all.
Some of our other wins were lucky and again not down to any brilliance on Bruce's part.
It is the losses that clearly show his lack of managerial skill.

What part of that tripe did I twist?

 

[MackemsRule]

Cut the **** mate. Improvement is improvement. You obviously have it in for Bruce.
Fact is you make your own luck in this world.
As for money spent. Bruce has had next to nothing in today's terms. yet he's turned a group of over paid Irish misfits into the best squad I've seen at Sunderland.

Fine I shall take my **** elsewhere.
I'm wrong and you're right.

Bloody disgrace that I am, having an opinion different to your own.

Just seen your last post, now I'm talking tripe?
You keep defending Bruce bonny lad, not going to bother me, or change my mind, the only thing that could do that is what he does on the pitch. And all the stats in the world wont do it either.

 

[CyprusMackem]

Tripe indeed to say our wins were "not down to any brilliance on Bruce's part" yet the losses "clearly show his lack of managerial skill".

I wonder who's fault it was we finished top ten for the first time in over ten years. And only the third time in fifty years.
Stone me. If we ever get a manager who knows what he's doing we will piss the bloody league.

 

[Commachio]

I wonder who's fault it was we finished top ten for the first time in over ten years. And only the third time in fifty years.
Stone me. If we ever get a manager who knows what he's doing we will piss the bloody league

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I'm still chuckling at this. We have moved on and improved, but obviously not fast enough for some.

 

[Steven Royston O'Neill]

I was enjoying reading the OP untill we got to this bit, then had a funny turn

Howard Wilkinson, having won the title with Leeds (the last English manager to do so) and an ex England caretaker manager. When we made Lawrie McMenemy the highest paid manager at the time, supposibly the next big thing, touted as a future England boss, do I have to say what watching Sunderland was like under those two. Sometimes these things don't work out

Not right to mention those two without warning

 

[Bizarreknives]

I was enjoying reading the OP untill we got to this bit, then had a funny turn

Howard Wilkinson, having won the title with Leeds (the last English manager to do so) and an ex England caretaker manager. When we made Lawrie McMenemy the highest paid manager at the time, supposibly the next big thing, touted as a future England boss, do I have to say what watching Sunderland was like under those two. Sometimes these things don't work out





Not right to mention those two without warning

Im with you on that, I just nearly choked on my coffee.