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Apart from Brexit ****ing up the cost of materials, the only rumour of problems that I've heard is that there were some piling problems in the early days and a threatened crane driver strike, which didn't happen or lasted 1 day. So, we should be close to expected progress.

Whether we flood the site with labour now or draw the whole thing out, it should be the same amount of man hours, if there are no further problems. Apparently the lower floors are already being decorated in parts other than the South Stand. I saw concrete being poured in the pitch area a week or so ago and the roof supports are in situ to go up in the North Stand area, so there's huge progress everywhere. The glass is ging in everywhere which is normally a good sign that things are going okay from my experience.

The Americans were over a few days ago and it looked like smiles all round, so I'm optimistic. Rumours of overruns are typical of the British negativity As soon as the Olympics were won, people couldn't wait to be negative about it being ready in time. As it turned out, we were the best prepared Olympics in years. Levy will have written in bonuses all round for timely completion. It's what he does. More concerning is the lack of actual progress on the new WHL station and remodelling of the High Road and walk from the station to the ground. The ****ing public sector lag in full effect.

As for the money, Joe Lewis has personally guaranteed the borrowing and funding. Spending on stadia is not covered by FFP, so, if he wanted, he could fund the stadium and then take the money back out of future profits. He won't but it's nice to know that's there as an option.
Surely the weather has been in our favour as well-very few rainy days.
 
Surely the weather has been in our favour as well-very few rainy days.
Consideration was given to the weather at the design stage. Almost all of the concrete is pre-cast by a specialist contractor and shipped to site avoiding weather (rain and temperature delays). It also ensures better quality concrete (strength wise and visual).
 
From today's Football London with Alasdair Gold

"I’ve heard nothing to suggest it is behind schedule as a whole. Of course certain sections will be behind and others ahead of schedule as with any major project, but with the NFL deal tied to start next summer and the club not really wanting a second season at Wembley if it’s not delivered on time, you can be sure the workforce on site will be doubled, tripled and quadrupled to ensure it’s ready for Spurs to move in to next summer."

As suspected, any problems are likely to be minor and there's still enough time to put them right at this stage. Hitting the deadline is essential for us and particularly the NFL relationship. Do that and we're on for a permanent franchise in the next few years.....probably when the new station, High Street and hotel are ready and the place looks like somewhere completely unlike current Tottenham.

Reading in between the lines of the recent statement from the NFL, they'll want it all to look like he inside of the stadium. I doubt there'll be too many kebab shops or KFC derivative chicken places left.

Also, there's the issue of the club wanting a Fanzone [with large screens and catering for those of us who can't afford to get in any more] included in the next stages of development and there are a number of other topics that are the subject of dispute with the local council over land that the club own and want excluded from the wider development plans or are to be used to trade for the Fanzone and outside broadcast areas. This is well worth a look......

http://stophdv.com/769-2/#.WgX4zmi0PIV

All very interesting and likely to keep some people very busy in the next few years.
 
In other stadium news, Chelsea's new stadium is to be delayed by a minimum of 3 years. The intended opening date moves from 2021 to 2024 with Chelsea Chairman, Bruce Buck saying that further delays are possible. Shame that. Could it be that nobody wants them during building works?

Chelsea are suggesting that there are 8 possible temporary venues for them within the M25. Doubtless, it's part of their 'negotiation strategy' for dealing with Wembley. So that would be..........

  • Twickenham - wouldn't touch them with a bargepole
  • Arsenal - see Twickenham
  • West Ham - see Arsenal
  • Crystal Palace - see West Ham
  • Queens Park Rangers - Desperately short of cash, despite hating Chelsea, they might do it. Expect fan uproar, so maybe not.
  • Fulham - See Queens Park Rangers
  • Brentford - See Fulham
or the only real option...............

  • Wembley - If they can get the Council to agree to a likely 5 year occupation by the scum........not very likely given the furore over us being there for one season.
It's been suggested that Chelsea have approached us. No, really, it has. That must have been the shortest conversation in history............."Hello. No. **** off. Goodbye"
 
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In other stadium news, Chelsea's new stadium is to be delayed by a minimum of 3 years. The intended opening date moves from 2021 to 2024 with Chelsea Chairman, Bruce Buck saying that further delays are possible. Shame that. Could it be that nobody wants them during building works?

Chelsea are suggesting that there are 8 possible temporary venues for them within the M25. Doubtless, it's part of their 'negotiation strategy' for dealing with Wembley. So that would be..........

  • Twickenham - wouldn't touch them with a bargepole
  • Arsenal - see Twickenham
  • West Ham - see Arsenal
  • Crystal Palace - see West Ham
  • Queens Park Rangers - Desperately short of cash, despite hating Chelsea, they might do it. Expect fan uproar, so maybe not.
  • Fulham - See Queens Park Rangers
  • Brentford - See Fulham
or the only real option...............

  • Wembley - If they can get the Council to agree to a likely 5 year occupation by the scum........not very likely given the furore over us being there for one season.
It's been suggested that Chelsea have approached us. No, really, it has. That must have been the shortest conversation in history............."No. **** off. Goodbye"

I'm all for Chelsea using our new ground....



...on the proviso they play Arsenal on the opening game of the season and we fill the turf with high yield land mines.
 
In other stadium news, Chelsea's new stadium is to be delayed by a minimum of 3 years. The intended opening date moves from 2021 to 2024 with Chelsea Chairman, Bruce Buck saying that further delays are possible. Shame that. Could it be that nobody wants them during building works? ...
  • Wembley - If they can get the Council to agree to a likely 5 year occupation by the scum........not very likely given the furore over us being there for one season.

Five years of Wembley "hoodoo" and Deirdre attendance WUMmery.
Yes please. :)


"It's been suggested that Chelsea have approached us. No, really, it has.
must have been the shortest conversation in history."

Hello. You want what !!??
(prolonged <rofl> - caller hangs up)
 
A Russian owned team full of Spaniards and others, it's only connection with London are it's name and it's fans. I suggest Moscow, Madrid or Washington DC as suitable venues. Wimbledon could move into Stamford Bridge and make it a proper London team in a London venue, I'm sure Wimbledon would be content with the venue for at least a few more years.
 
Chelsea are suggesting that there are 8 possible temporary venues for them within the M25. Doubtless, it's part of their 'negotiation strategy' for dealing with Wembley. So that would be..........
  • West Ham - see Arsenal
They're not the owners, though. In fact, they keep taking the owners to court all the time.
It would be a real shame if some rich bloke paid some lawyers to pour over all the documents and find a reason to kick them out, wouldn't it? <whistle>
 
What I don't get about the Chelsea stadium fiasco is...........it's a fiasco and nothing............I mean NOTHING gets said about it. I read articles in at least 3 newspapers on the subject. All of them were the same wording that was given out by Chelsea. Not one 'journalist' thought to ask "Why?".

Not one said, "It's no ****ing wonder that they can't find a temporary base for 5 years. Why the **** did they come up with such a ridiculous design?" One of the reason that most stadiums look similar is because they are fulfilling the same function and subject to the same pressures - time, costs, returns, practicality. Coming up with something with a build-time akin to Gaudi's cathedral is MENTAL. Particularly mental when the only place you can use as a temporary base is not going to want you for half of the estimated build time. You might as well plan to use fairy dust and unicorn horns as the main building material.

How much has Abramovich paid the reporters of Her Majesty's Gutter Press to ignore this and Boris influenced them to turn a blind eye to the ****ing disaster that is The Taxpayers Arena? If our new stadium comes in 1 day late, there's going to be a **** storm the like of which nobody's ever seen before. I guarantee it.
 
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What I don't get about the Chelsea stadium fiasco is...........it's a fiasco and nothing............I mean NOTHING gets said about it. I read articles in at least 3 newspapers on the subject.all of them were the same wording that was given out by Chelsea. Not one 'journalist' thought to ask "Why?".

Not one said, "It's no ****ing wonder that they can't find a temporary base for 5 years. Why the **** did they come up with such a ridiculous design?" One of the reason that most stadiums look similar is because they are fulfilling the same function and subject to the same pressures - time, costs, returns, practicality. Coming up with something with a build-time akin to Gaudi's cathedral is MENTAL. Particularly mental when the only place you can use as a temporary base is not going to want you for half of the estimated build time. You might as well plan to use fairy dust and unicorn horns as the main building material.

How much has Abramovich paid the reporters of Her Majesty's Gutter Press to ignore this and Boris influenced them to turn a blind eye to the ****ing disaster that is The Taxpayers Arena? If our new stadium comes in 1 day late, there's going to be a **** storm the like of which nobody's ever seen before. I guarantee it.
It reminds me a little of the Coliseum and by the time they build it the Roman Games will be back. Did I say Roman ! LOL
 
What I don't get about the Chelsea stadium fiasco is...........it's a fiasco and nothing............I mean NOTHING gets said about it. I read articles in at least 3 newspapers on the subject. All of them were the same wording that was given out by Chelsea. Not one 'journalist' thought to ask "Why?".

Not one said, "It's no ****ing wonder that they can't find a temporary base for 5 years. Why the **** did they come up with such a ridiculous design?" One of the reason that most stadiums look similar is because they are fulfilling the same function and subject to the same pressures - time, costs, returns, practicality. Coming up with something with a build-time akin to Gaudi's cathedral is MENTAL. Particularly mental when the only place you can use as a temporary base is not going to want you for half of the estimated build time. You might as well plan to use fairy dust and unicorn horns as the main building material.

How much has Abramovich paid the reporters of Her Majesty's Gutter Press to ignore this and Boris influenced them to turn a blind eye to the ****ing disaster that is The Taxpayers Arena? If our new stadium comes in 1 day late, there's going to be a **** storm the like of which nobody's ever seen before. I guarantee it.

Top notch rant. CK approves <applause>
 
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The new stadium looks ****ing ugly that's for sure. Reminds me a bit of the eyesore that blighted Portsmouth (and that was one ugly town centre when I lived there), the Tricorn Centre:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tricorn_Centre

It's like something out of a 60's architects rejects bin.

You are from East Sussex and have lived in Portsmouth. I'm surprised we haven't crossed paths. Did you ever play rugby for Portsmouth or drink around the Copnor or Fratton area? You are right, the Tricorn was an absolute eyesore. Is it still there?
 
The Tricorn got knocked down shortly after I came home I believe (possibly started to knock it down while I was there) in 2006. I was around the Milton area so not far from Fratton but generally never went there except to watch the football when mates teams came down (god I have seen some dire matches there!). If we drank there, the name of the pub escapes me but for some reason Magpie rings a bell but god knows why. Might be what is now the John Jacques but thought it was nearer to Fratton Park than that.

I'm 5'6" so rugby was very much out of the question! Liked to play when I was at school but lost the love for it when I once went past the school rugby team captain on the wing too easily so he grabbed the neck of my shirt and threw me off the pitch (high tackle ref!). Left a huge red mark around my neck and the PE teacher did eff all.
 
The Tricorn got knocked down shortly after I came home I believe (possibly started to knock it down while I was there) in 2006. I was around the Milton area so not far from Fratton but generally never went there except to watch the football when mates teams came down (god I have seen some dire matches there!). If we drank there, the name of the pub escapes me but for some reason Magpie rings a bell but god knows why. Might be what is now the John Jacques but thought it was nearer to Fratton Park than that.

I'm 5'6" so rugby was very much out of the question! Liked to play when I was at school but lost the love for it when I once went past the school rugby team captain on the wing too easily so he grabbed the neck of my shirt and threw me off the pitch (high tackle ref!). Left a huge red mark around my neck and the PE teacher did eff all.

I used to drink in the Maggie, most lunch times, in the days before elf & safety said you couldn't have a couple of beers at lunchtime then go back to work. However, it was way back in 1976, small world all the same. Was Victory Brushes (John Palmer Ltd) still there or had the site been redeveloped? My dear old departed mum and obnoxious thankfully departed step father ran a pub just outside Portsmouth, the Greyhound (now redeveloped), at Leigh Park before moving back to Brighton and running the Downs Hotel at Woodingdean. (Probably the second closet pub to the AMEX behind the Swan at Falmer). They retired in the early 90's and moved to Barcome, just outside of Lewes.