Match Day Thread Sheff Utd v Hull City

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kingstontiger said:
But people do jump on any slight flaw in his English. An English manager might have made excuses but Sluts doesn't have that subtlety. So he says I don't have answers which is clearly honest at the moment because if he had it wouldn't be happening!. I would still give him a few games but must admit beginning to think in this situation right now we need a British coach who can communicate better with the team and the media much though I like the guy enormously.
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Alas I don' think its' the language barrier that sets up the team.. that coaches them week in week out .. that picks 2 central midfielders to play against the opposition's 3 .. or 2 wide men knowing they do **** all in the defensive area .. or coach schoolboy defending and piss poor defensive shape.

I like the bloke and accept when he is talking things can be misunderstood .. however it's his inability to see what the rest of us see that worries me and his inability to learn from his constant mistakes that will ultimately take us down at this rate.

This lot of players ain't world beaters but someone capable of organising a team will certainly get a better tune out them then he is presently.
 
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One thing, of many, I noticed today was how blunt players when they got the ball attacked us at pace, esp fleck from cm. Other than Bowen grosicki (1 do from lw) and aina we don't possess a turn of pace from anywhere, esp cm where we have battlers but nothing dynamic at all.

We must be so easy to play against, sit a bit deep counter at pace, target our full backs neither who are good enough to play FB in the championship. At the back, their back 4 must have an ace time knocking it about in triangles whilst FC runs his bollocks off and bowen and turbo do sod all.

Only one man has played well in virtually every game this season and that's McGregor, superb once again today could have been 6 or 7 easily if he'd not had a stormer
 
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Trau Morgus said:
Why are you all calling for Slutski to go?

You know that's only going to result in Ehab giving him a 5 year extension to his contract.
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As galling as it is to gave the waste of an orgasm any credit, the only footballing decision he's made that was the right one was his sacking of phelan last year
 
Well, the result frankly wasn't a shock, but the fact that when I went to bed close to half time we were winning 0-1, so to wake up to 4-1 loss certainly made be wonder where we go from here. It does seem that Leo just doesn't know what to do next, and the players don't seem to be playing for him, which is a surprise as he appears to be such a likeable person.

As already mention by others, I think the Allams will just let him fall on his sword, as they won't want to have to pay off his contract. It certainly looks as if it needs someone fresh to come in a get this lot organised and motivated, because we seem to be going only one way at the moment, and that is down.

P.S. AS A MATTER OF INTEREST, IF WE SHOULD DROP INTO DIV 1, DO THE PARACHUTE PAYMENT STOP?
 
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John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
Well, the result frankly wasn't a shock, but the fact that when I went to bed close to half time we were winning 0-1, so to wake up to 4-1 loss certainly made be wonder where we go from here. It does seem that Leo just doesn't know what to do next, and the players don't seem to be playing for him, which is a surprise as he appears to be such a likeable person.

As already mention by others, I think the Allams will just let him fall on his sword, as they won't want to have to pay off his contract. It certainly looks as if it needs someone fresh to come in a get this lot organised and motivated, because we seem to be going only one way at the moment, and that is down.

P.S. AS A MATTER OF INTEREST, IF WE SHOULD DROP INTO DIV 1, DO THE PARACHUTE PAYMENT STOP?
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No they stop the season after in League 2.
 
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tigercity said:
So how come he did well with CSKA?
Did he just have the better players or is he just a 'singing while you're winning' type
Can't really say it is is the language
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I'll say if it was serious question.
Leo always had very experienced defence line (about 15 years playing together) and world class goalkeeper too (McG is very good too). It's pretty impossible to compare new team like current Hull City (talking about roster) with very stable and aged CSKA team. Massive loan campaign is very dangerous way. Never ever his CSKA wasn't based on youngster loanees.
It's most stable team in Europe - average above 6 years playing together.
http://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/rk/demo/en/phone/stability.html
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Cheers.

Then **** him he's got to go. If we had Kante and matic as the two cm's it would work. Otherwise not a ****ing chance.
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He was asked about it and he said the system was working fine first half and we suddenly got **** playing the same system, so it isn't the system. He also said we tried a back three for a while and were equally ****. (From what I saw at the Sunderland game I'd back that up).

Anyway it's quite a commonly used system. And a 4-4-2 is generally more open. I agree he's pretty **** but not because of the formation.
 
The times you watch teams under intense pressure, Burnley a good example who end up winning 1.0 because they are well drilled. Our defence can never hold out because they are so unorganized and because of poor recruitment and is that down to the coach, the head of recruitment or Ehab himself ? I don't know but one thing we all know is we had an aging CB and three inexperienced lads at the back well no wonder were leaking goals it isn't rocket science, the problem we have is if we make changes they ain't any better. If you are an opposing manager tell your team to attack us because three quarters of Hull city's defence are learners.
 
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PLT said:
He was asked about it and he said the system was working fine first half and we suddenly got **** playing the same system, so it isn't the system. He also said we tried a back three for a while and were equally ****. (From what I saw at the Sunderland game I'd back that up).

Anyway it's quite a commonly used system. And a 4-4-2 is generally more open. I agree he's pretty **** but not because of the formation.
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It's all about the formation and then not having the players good enough to play it.
Yes we start off brightly as we are overloaded in attack. Catches teams out then once they adjust, they realise as soon as they bypass our four attacking players they're all over us. Leaving Meyler and Larsson outnumbered with a ****load of work to do.
 
johnbo said:
The times you watch teams under intense pressure, Burnley a good example who end up winning 1.0 because they are well drilled. Our defence can never hold out because they are so unorganized and because of poor recruitment and is that down to the coach, the head of recruitment or Ehab himself ? I don't know but one thing we all know is we had an aging CB and three inexperienced lads at the back well no wonder were leaking goals it isn't rocket science, the problem we have is if we make changes they ain't any better. If you are an opposing manager tell your team to attack us because three quarters of Hull city's defence are learners.
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I agree with this. The formation we play is a side show, a distraction to the main fact. Which is that the team is not currently sufficiently motivated to play to 100% of their ability within a well coached and defined system for 90 minutes per game. Whether that inability comes from the manager, the coaches, the administration or a combination is moot, but it something that the chairman and the manager need to resolve quickly or the slide in form and confidence will contribute and hasten.

Look at Sheffield yesterday, they had a bunch of journeymen from outside the top flight, plus a couple of Prem loans, but they were organised, committed, they worked hard every moment and each of them had confidence their teammate was working as hard as they were. Their formation was not really material, it’s there attitude that won the day.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
It's all about the formation and then not having the players good enough to play it.
Yes we start off brightly as we are overloaded in attack. Catches teams out then once they adjust, they realise as soon as they bypass our four attacking players they're all over us. Leaving Meyler and Larsson outnumbered with a ****load of work to do.
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To say the players are not good enough to play it, IMO it is not only this, it is players that are not suited to what Leo is doing. Dyche has what I would call average players, but he has got them drilled to get back into shape immediately an attacking move breaks down. Turbo can't be arsed to get back to defend, and that is where is breaks down, because the player behind him, leaving either Clark or Aina exposed and are inexperienced full backs to cover.

I don't think he is a defensive coach, and seems unable to get them into a defensive formation that is solid.
 
John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
To say the players are not good enough to play it, IMO it is not only this, it is players that are not suited to what Leo is doing. Dyche has what I would call average players, but he has got them drilled to get back into shape immediately an attacking move breaks down. Turbo can't be arsed to get back to defend, and that is where is breaks down, because the player behind him, leaving either Clark or Aina exposed and are inexperienced full backs to cover.

I don't think he is a defensive coach, and seems unable to get them into a defensive formation that is solid.
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Turbo is an attacking winger who can't tackle and cant head it. So one tell mcgregor to stop kicking to him and two either play him and rearrange the team to compensate for his lack of defensive acumen or drop him. I don't care if it's cos he s lazy, he is what's he is. Either drop him or adapt to accommodate him.
George Boyd was a roaming number ten when we signed him, neither us or dyche really ever played him there. He turned out to be a run your bollocks off left mid. Turbo can't do that.
Bowen is a winger who track back a bit, he does the really play right. Mid. Now that leaves a gap for their left mid. Either Aina pushes on to him and leaves a huge gap behind and Dawson vulnerable or he holds his defensive .ine and allows their left mid a huge area to receive the ball.
Same on the other side with Clark. Who tends to hold his position better but who then gets skinned by a plAyer charging at him With the ball. Second goal yesterday for example.
 
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