Match Day Thread Saints v Burnley - Saturday 4th November ko 15:00 - Goals galore thread.
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You are only as good as you play. You can have Ronaldo in your team and if you still lose you are ****. We have been **** for over a season now. Comes a time you have to question more then the manager. Puel has shut up people who caller him boring in 2 games at Leicester.
Puel had more attacking players. I even pointed this out last week. We can't rotate as we simply have no depth. So players playing **** have no competition.
Yeah you are only as good as you play and ultimately it is the job of the manager to get the best out of the group of players he's got.
He's simply not doing that at present.
Go away you Seagull loving sod ...*
This is a joke *
I bow to your superior football knowledge . NOT meant in a sarcastic way I promise .
He didn't have Gabbiadini during this spell and Rodriguez was still coming back from injury. Austin was injured when he did have Gabbiadini. he also didn't have Lemina(who we didn't have today but i'm not judging Pellegrino on just this game - i've not even seen it.).
Southampton boss Mauricio Pellegrinio, speaking to MOTD: "We did everything we had to do against an opponent that was defending 90% of the game. We were much better than them in all different aspects of the game apart from efficiency. They had one chance and scored. It is really painful for us, we did everything. The intensity and football was good, but we lost.
"I don't want to talk about luck. In this aspect we need to improve our accuracy. Today the spirit of the team and the attitude was really good.
"We had to use this game as a reference about how I would like my team to play. We deserved more.
"We have quality and capacity to keep playing in this way. We controlled the opponent totally in my view but in the respect of efficiency, Burnley were better than us."
"I don't want to talk about luck. In this aspect we need to improve our accuracy. Today the spirit of the team and the attitude was really good.
"We had to use this game as a reference about how I would like my team to play. We deserved more.
"We have quality and capacity to keep playing in this way. We controlled the opponent totally in my view but in the respect of efficiency, Burnley were better than us."
And you find it don't find it worrying that the players aren't responding to him this early in his Saints career?
So people keep saying without anything other than speculation and rumour to back it up. Our problem is much much bigger than the First Team Coach.
As always, not read any other posts yet, so here’s undiluted thoughts.
Hmm.
Sorry, but that one sits with MP2 i’m afraid.
Okay, so the usual problems exist in that we have an obsession with moving the ball wide and crossing in to a strike force that has a combined height of 3ft 2” - in fact the one time Virgil stayed up in the first half was the one time we crossed along the floor.
On the positive side, I like Boufal at 10. He lost the ball a couple of times, but he drove through the middle, and for a short time about half the way through the first half, Nathan and Dusan realised that if they ran at the Burnley defence it scared them.
Then Burnley changed to two up top and started causing us problems. At which point, MP2 sat there for about fifteen minutes wondering what to do....and then took off our best striker, replacing him with fat Charlie, and moving our best attacking threat (Boufal) into complete isolation on the left wing. Sorry, but that was bollocks. It infuriated me at the time and it still does.
I’m not usually one for knee jerking, but unlike Ian I just don’t see this supposed progress, and MP2 has pretty much got a full complement there (unlike Puel).
I’ve been unconvinced to date, and i’ve just moved on to very unconvinced.
Hmm.
Sorry, but that one sits with MP2 i’m afraid.
Okay, so the usual problems exist in that we have an obsession with moving the ball wide and crossing in to a strike force that has a combined height of 3ft 2” - in fact the one time Virgil stayed up in the first half was the one time we crossed along the floor.
On the positive side, I like Boufal at 10. He lost the ball a couple of times, but he drove through the middle, and for a short time about half the way through the first half, Nathan and Dusan realised that if they ran at the Burnley defence it scared them.
Then Burnley changed to two up top and started causing us problems. At which point, MP2 sat there for about fifteen minutes wondering what to do....and then took off our best striker, replacing him with fat Charlie, and moving our best attacking threat (Boufal) into complete isolation on the left wing. Sorry, but that was bollocks. It infuriated me at the time and it still does.
I’m not usually one for knee jerking, but unlike Ian I just don’t see this supposed progress, and MP2 has pretty much got a full complement there (unlike Puel).
I’ve been unconvinced to date, and i’ve just moved on to very unconvinced.
Those comments from Pellegrino are absurd.
Lemina is defensive mid.
Puel:
Jay (half a season)
Long
Gabbi (half a season)
Sims
Boufal
Redmond
Tadic
Austin
Prowse
He had all the players in the 2nd part of the season were we played totally ****.
Pellegrino:
Austin
Long
Boufal
Tadic
Redmond
Prowse
7 attacking players are no way enough. If we play 4231 or 442 you basically have to play 5 of them so have 2 attacking players as back up.
And calling Prowse attacking is a stretch
Beef, I agree with most of what you say but Pellegrino is in real danger. Didn't bring a striker in over the summer, and doesn't play what he has got. Sit back and wait to concede the first goal before doing anything. He has yet to change personnel or formation enough and keeps on plugging away hoping something will stick. The board may have let him down a bit, but he is making it a lot worse.
Sean Dyche just mugged us off and showed the difference between a manager that knows what he is doing and one that clearly doesn't. I'm not a kneejerk fan and will always give people a chance but i'm worried right now. we are playing like a lower midtable team that could get sucked into trouble and with the squad that we have got that is frankly not good enough. I blame the board in as much that there was no need to gamble on changing the manager, we were in capable hands with Puel. MP2 has more than a whiff of Poortvliet about him in the clueless stakes and has been bailed out in a couple of games by individual goals, set plays and penalties, we rarely look like scoring a team passing goal. Some of his decisions are just baffling to me and seem to lack basic logic.
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Swansea, Everton, Baggies... nah, we're not white worst yet.
Unless we start taking points off top teams, at least a couple of those stand a very good chance to be above us in short order.
The manager isn’t out there on the pitch with them. If they can’t be arsed they should **** off.
Exactly where I am at present.
Particularly with MP sitting there wondering what to do, he did that at Brighton last week too.
They didn't respond to Puel either. They turned on him and got him fired....