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Same, I don't think I hate any ex player or manager although I regard some in a more positive light than others.

I think the only time I could have said I hated a manager when he left would have been Hoddle and I'll put that down to the fact I was about 15.

Hoddle left for his dream job. Didn't like it, but perfectly understandable and you'd have done the same if it was Saints wanting you. Koeman chased the first suit waving cash.
 
I'm not so sure about this tbh. He had a year left with us, it appears that he wasn't overly keen on signing a new deal for whatever reason (maybe dispute about money, maybe because we were going to sell Mane, maybe a combination of these or something else) before Everton came in for him. Whatever it was it is very rare that a manager goes into the final season of his contract, he either leaves or signs an extension. So I don't think waiting it out was an option, especially as we ended up selling Mane and Pelle the summer he left (which he probably knew would happen) who were his 2 main guys attacking wise, so even if he did stay for the extra year it would've been hard for him to increase his reputation and more likely would've harmed it and lead to top clubs not being interested in him.

When he left he said Everton were showing more ambition which has been seen by the amount of money he has been given (I don't care what anyone says, in football ambition = money spent as this is what needs to happen to really improve). You can argue whether he has bought well or not, but he stated his main reasons for leaving were that Everton are a bigger club and with their new owner were showing more ambition, I think these are both true. I'm sure the massive increase in wages helped aswell though.

But but but... "I always shee out my contract"
 
I know it's popular to hate him on here and it's going over old ground a bit, but I do really like Ron and you can't argue with his record while here.

Will look back at his time with fond memories anyway, arguably our best manager in my lifetime anyway.


For sure, I'd also have him m back here in a shot. He is tried and tested and has that thing called a Plan B...

To be fair to MP2, I think he is staying strong to a system that we don't have the right people for, which may come good, but the short to medium term is painful.

I can see us clicking if we hold firm til Jan where surely even Les will agree we need to buy those things we all forget on our shopping list; attacking players.
 
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Rafa to Everton I think, not yet though. But Ron+Erwin will cost well over £10m to sack.
 
Still too early, as well. The Burnley loss is their first unexpectedly bad result in PL play; they have six points from three matches against non-top six opposition. Now, taking 1 point from their four matches against the top teams isn't what they'd want, but I'd expect Koeman to get at least another couple months, and it wouldn't be a surprise to see them end that span in the top eight.
 
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