Off Topic The Politics Thread

Not sure what the Spanish Govounmet are so worried about, the Catalansand can vote all they like but it's meaningless if the government just ignore it.

 

This really says a lot about democracy and the EU. This goes deeper than a vote for independence.

 

It’s not just Spain as the Catalonia region also includes a lot of France
To a point where I live there are Road signs in both French and Catalan

 

That's what we should have done with the EU opinion poll/referendum.

 

Do the French Catalans want independence to?

 

Not the same as the British Gov. aranged it and said they would abide by the result.

 

The guardian civil have always been and continue today to be cowardly bully bastards, Madrid will pay for this

 

The World has gone bonkers. Or at least far too many of our political leaders have.

 

Yep, the cops should have beaten up anyone who dared vote in the Brexit referendum

 

Shocking scenes in Barcelona. Cops punching women in the head that were protesting peacefully. Let's see on what side Herr Junckers comes down. An EU army may be needed to put down this monstrous referendum by Catalonia's civilians in their own country

 

It was advisory. An opinion poll. Why shouldn't we see how people feel once they know what it actually means?

 

Change the record Goldie, this would have happened regardless of the EU.

 

It would, and I look forward to seeing the EU's support for the Catalans over this inexcusable state violence

 

Inexcusable state violence is correct but I'm far from convinced the organisors of the Catalan vote are blameless either today. They must have expected these injuries and could have postponed the vote and tried talking, but chose political gain over the safety of the voters instead.

 

EU conspicuously silent on this...




Heroes in the frontline again...

 

You mean the organisers must have expected inexcusable violence by the state police by encouraging people to express themselves and vote peacefully?

 

Oh dear imaginary God in his imaginary heaven...............an opinion poll?!!
It was a referendum that the government said would be implemented. Move on!!

 

A non-binding opinion poll, yes. Opinions change and so do governments.

 

I think everyone expected this after the response from Madrid a couple of days ago. The vote was ruled illegal, was going to be stopped, and the Catalan vote leaders are not blind to how Spain's security forces would do that!

 

I don't think the Catalan leaders should have backed down in the face of state violence, particularly as deadly force was unlikely. And it was politically astute. The world will have sympathy with the Catalans, second only to the Rohingyas. Madrid has made several rods for its own back.