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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Agree have left stuff in barns that would have been stolen back here. No money ever changes hands. I sometimes help him when cows are being moved and he does us favors. love the life out in France but then I am pro European. :emoticon-0105-wink::emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  2. sb_73

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    Potential bad news for many on prescription medicines. 12 of the top 20 pharmaceutical companies have manufacturing plants on Puerto Rico and 7 of the top 10 selling drugs, plus a lot of other things like insulin pens, are made there. The hurricanes have done minimal to moderate damage to the factories, but the infrastructure is gone, and many of the facilities are being used to provide shelter for the workers and their families (like my company’s). Supply issues for these drugs forecast. Could get serious not just for the inhabitants.
     
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  3. TheBigDipper

    TheBigDipper Well-Known Member

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    Looks like Boris Johnson is warming up his leadership campaign in the Sun. Setting out four "must haves" for a successful Brexit and saying "It will be great" without actually explaining how. So, light on detail, strong on soundbites - it'll play well with many Brexit voters and that might be enough to persuade more Conservatives to reconsider if they should have a leader who lies and only serves himself. Just the moral guidance (by their actions) from the top we need as a country.
     
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  4. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Astonishing attack from Justin Welby, the increasingly irrelevant Archbishop of Canterbury, on the BBC, saying that the C of E and Catholic Churches have done a much better job in responding to child abuse within their organisations than the BBC. And then going on about how shocked he is about gender pay differentials in the BBC.

    WTF? None of these organisations can hold their heads up high on this issue, but seriously, the churches have done a good job? Decades, probably centuries, of abuse on a massive scale met with years of denial and evasion, and the explicit organisational protection of abusers, with scandals still emerging, compared to single figures of abusers (of course there may be more) who should have been identified and stopped earlier.

    At least the BBC lets women do the same jobs as men, even if they don’t pay as much. How many female catholic priests are there? The argument about ordination of women is far from dead in the C of E, some bloke on the wireless the other day quoting Corinthians to show that women not only should not be vicars but should be silent in church.

    So what’s behind this? My guess is it’s part of Welby’s ongoing whine about aggressive atheism. The BBC, clearly part of the intellectual metropolitan elite, has cut religious broadcasting, and is part of the media which delights in exposing Church scandals and abuses. Of course at the root is his probably unconscious knowledge that he has no arguments against the secularists. An institution which has had centuries of deference, privilege and absence of challenge, gleefully persecuting those with different opinions, can’t cope with a debate.
     
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  5. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Looks more and more like Johnson wants to be sacked so that he can mount an unfettered leadership challenge as some kind of hard-Brexit martyr.
     
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  6. Lawrence Jacoby

    Lawrence Jacoby Well-Known Member

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    I keep things simple as this become the new currency and skill set

    Both the BBC and the Archbishop are cnuts
     
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  7. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    £61m to repair Big Ben, twice the original estimate?

    **** off. Get another quote mate.
     
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  8. Lawrence Jacoby

    Lawrence Jacoby Well-Known Member

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    Project a laser type picture onto the face plus the time will correct
    £15 from Dixon’s

    Better still make it into council flats
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    As far as I can tell the catholic church are at least trying to do something about the abuse
    All the BBC are doing is highlighting others issues
     
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  10. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    How many illegal immigrants could we get into the channel tunnel
    France must be a real **** hole dt
    No ****er wants to stay there
     
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  11. Lawrence Jacoby

    Lawrence Jacoby Well-Known Member

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    I agree the north of France is not my favourite part of the country or Europe the great news is the U.K. thinks that is typical France
    It certainly isn’t
    Worth saying that over 10 years I have driven and stayed around the north a fair bit and never seen any sign of the troubles reported in the past. I actually laugh when I have seen the past reports on U.K. tv

    Don’t mind at all that the mainstream thoughts of the U.K. that France is a wasteland full of migrants and a nation of lazy people.... I know the truth
     
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  12. ELLERS

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    why can't they go digital, it would be cheaper.
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Why don't the migrants want to stay there
    They can't all have relatives living in London
     
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    Sad scenes in Catalonia, where the Spanish government is using police to physically disrupt the independence referendum by removing ballot boxes and preventing people from voting. This kind of action can only increase the divisions and is horribly reminiscent of not too distant Spanish politics.

    I was in Barcelona a few months ago and had an interesting conversation with a lady who is a proud Catalonian, with not much time for the Spanish Government, but who had no interest in independence. She said that to her surprise most of her friends felt the same and a vote would probably have the same result as in Scotland. If the London Government had attempted to disrupt the Scottish referendum in the same way the Madrid one has, the result would have been certain independence. Which is the path that Catalonia will now be on.
     
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    Break it all up. The UK wants its independence. The West was quite happy to dismember Yugoslavia and to back independence movements in Eastern Europe in order to be able to place nuclear missiles a few miles closer to Moscow. Therefore as people of principle, Western governments should not stand in the way of each part of the UK going its own way, Spain splintering into three or four pieces and the EU breaking up in an orderly way. What is the principle behind supporting one people's independence but denying another's? .
     
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    It will all go tits up for the EU in the end. The rise of anti-EU groups is at a record high in many countries. What they need to do is go back to basics, sack all those twats in Brussels and start again as free trading partners but each country should keep its laws and identities. This Spain thing will not be good for future EU plans.
     
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    May should send Boris to Catalonia to negotiate a trade deal and offer them Gibraltar, that will really piss off Spain and the EU.
     
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    It must be serious the Barcelona match has been postponed...
     
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    Not postponed, but playing in an empty stadium
     
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  20. sb_73

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    Over 300 hurt in Catalonia.

    The Spanish government are totally ****ing this up. The majority of Catalans would have voted no to independence, now they are being treated The way Franco treated them. Could get very messy indeed. Also makes Cameron’s approach to Scottish independence almost statesmanlike.
     
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