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Obadiah said:
I was the only one off this board to attend the second protest outside the Airco Arena against what the Allams did. I don't think I was wrong, I was just on the losing side.
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You should have just called them ****s on line. It's what makes you a real fan.
 
PLT said:
It's difficult to imagine just what Ehab or his dad would have to do to lose the support of those on here who back them. I've never understood this ardent, unerring backing they get from some, or why these posters are so determined to continue backing the Allams. Do they actually believe the stuff they post or is it just a face saving exercise of never being shown to change their mind after calling it wrong back at the beginning? I don't get it.

I sort of wonder if they met some of the people who've suffered at the hands of the Allams; the groundsmen who lost their jobs, the disabled kids who lost their venue, the club whose trampolines Ehab tried to sell on eBay, or any of the people who've dealt with them at the FA, our various ex managers and employees who've fallen foul of them, etc etc would they act the same? Just dismiss their claims with this entirely transparent faux-neutrality which everyone can see is really just a determination to back the Allams whatever they do and whoever they hurt. I just don't get it.
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The evil ****s even bought pizzas and refreshments for people waiting for tickets.
 
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brownbagtiger said:
I think some people just like being contrary online. I've seen it in other forums, and ultimately they said they liked "keeping the conversation going" by presenting the "opposite view".

Personally I think it's dancing pretty close to the line of being a WUM
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You may be right, but it's not just online. Blackburn, Blackpool, Charlton etc all have their own weird little individuals among their fanbase who stand up for their respective owners no matter what they do as well. Even Cardiff had some "it's his money he can do what he wants" types when they were playing in red. It's why the media always have to say that "sections of the crowd" were involved in protests when quite obviously it's almost the entire ground.
 
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PLT said:
You may be right, but it's not just online. Blackburn, Blackpool, Charlton etc all have their own weird little individuals among their fanbase who stand up for their respective owners no matter what they do as well. Even Cardiff had some "it's his money he can do what he wants" types when they were playing in red. It's why the media always have to say that "sections of the crowd" were involved in protests when quite obviously it's almost the entire ground.
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You seem to fail to grasp the fact that the majority still support the hierarchy, whether you agree with them or not, it doesn't mean they're wrong.
 
Update on Unfairly Dismissed by Stadium Management Company

We’ve been a bit quiet this last month or so whilst we have been working with our legal team and dealing with more paperwork than we’ve ever seen before. However, we are now two months away from the hearing and the reality of our situation is beginning to hit home.

We set a crowdfunding target of £20,000 to enable us to fight for justice and stand up to the people who put us in this awful position and to create a level playing field when we meet them in court – we have so far raised £6170 of that target.

Without Crowdfunding we have no chance and would simply have to roll over and accept what they’ve done to us. We have now got to the point where we have seen their Defence and all the documents and we are now even more encouraged about our case, as are our legal team. All we want is for the Employment Tribunal to restore our reputations by telling the world that we were unfairly dismissed and that we did not deserve what is happening to us.

We hit our initial target of £5k in just 44 hours and were overwhelmed by the support. It is the way of these crowdfunding sites that the stretch target is then introduced which aims at the actual sum we need (£20k). We got a bit carried away at our initial fundraising success and felt as if we’d made it. The reality is, we’ve a long way to go and we need the best barrister in the business to compete with theirs and we don’t want them looking at our fundraising total and thinking we cannot compete!

If we are to stand a chance against our formidable opponents in this case we need your support now more than ever – failure is no longer an option for us, our families and our supporters. We now have no option but to swallow our already dented pride and ask anyone who supports our case to do everything within their power to help us gain further publicity as we aim to reach our £20k target. Put simply, we need more donations and we need to spread the word to achieve that.

So far the support has come in from far and wide, from Jeremy Corbyn to former players of Hull City and Hull FC and from Groundsmen representing clubs from all over the country.

Please, please, please help us to spread the word and encourage all who can donate to our cause to do so. We’ve been unfairly dismissed with immediate effect from our positions as senior groundsmen with 55 years’ combined service with an exemplary record during which we won awards and at times of financial trouble for both clubs we have worked without pay. We gave blood, sweat and tears to forge a reputation as one of the most experienced and longest serving stadium ground staff teams in the country. We need your help and support to prove that justice can prevail if you are prepared to stand up for what is right.

We have been asked many times why we think we were sacked and we’ve asked ourselves the same thing many times too! The only rational explanation we can come up with is that it was to save money. The stadium and pitch is owned by the council and the SMC owners have already stated that they wouldn’t spend money on an asset they don’t own (i.e. is rented) when referring to a stadium expansion. If that is the case, and we are only surmising, we should have been made redundant but our length of service would have made that an expensive option. I don’t think they expected we could fight the sacking but we are doing because it is worth fighting for and with your help we can get justice.

Thanks you for reading and also for your kind support – it is very much appreciated at this time.
 
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