Off Topic Aliens

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Milkalot said:
Everyone has a mobile phone with a camera these days and yet we still can't capture a video or photo of anything that looks more than a blurry street light.
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You tried to hold a camera free handed? yet you expect tripod quality?

Plus if Ufo's have the ability to avoid being captured on radars, i have no doubt they have technology that grains recordings...just like they have technology that null and voids aircraft computers, dismantles weaponary by jamming the computers until they are out of safe sight.

You cant watch E.T by Spielberg and think that's how it works..Hollywood is the devil's deception.
 
Hoddle Is A God said:
Not sure what ghosts have to do with this particular debate, PNP, but your argument simply does not stack up as regards the possibility for there being superior lifeforms in observance over us.

For a start, you assume that these beings are readily observable in white-light. There is an abundance of evidence to suggest that these beings exist outside our spectrum of light.

You assume, also, that these beings will look like us, or in some form that we will readily recognise as being "alien." I suppose we have Hollywood, as well as 70 years of NASA and CIA propaganda to blame for that.

These beings are likely to be as alien to us, and as technologically advanced, as we are to ants. How much do you think the ant colony is aware that it has been created in the laboratory of some natural history department, and is being observed by us?

Not that I necessarily believe this particular report, but there is one such report that claims that the little grey aliens that were recovered from the crashed craft in Roswell, in 1947, were wearing micro-thin suits, complete with helmets, that fitted them like a second-skin. Those famous "bug-eyes" of the Grey alien are likely, therefore, to be some form of space-helmet, rather than its actual facial features.

For my own part, I think the entire Greys phenomenon is nothing more than propaganda put out by our own leaders, intended to distract us from what forms these beings actually take.
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PleaseNotPoll said:
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Is the truth out there?

For a start, we have to define what we mean by "truth."

Things tend to be considered by us to be true if they fit our perception of how things exist and work within our concept of Time & Space. If these phenomena exist outside our frames of reference, we may not even have the intellect or physical ability to recognise them, let alone understand them.

Secondly, what do you mean by "out there?"

Where is "there?"

Do you mean space? Our top cosmologists can't even agree on what space is!

Do you mean "everything that operates without our spectrum of light, and on our dimensional levels of matter and awareness?"

You see the problem?

That rather trite line - the truth is out there - is loaded with all kinds of key assumptions that has the effect of directing our attention away from what the "truth" (however that is to be defined) actually might be.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
The technology has improved dramatically, but suddenly ghosts and UFOs have gone all camera shy.
There's CCTV all over the place and everyone's their own film crew. Not a ****ing sausage.
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Josef Allen Hynek was the scientist attached to the U.S. military's UFO studies, he was given unparalleled access to all the witnesses and 'evidence' available to the US from 1948 onwards, stating at the time, that UFO's as a subject was utterly ridiculous and a fad that would disappear in a few yeas. He enjoyed his job and successfully debunked for 30 decades.
However, during those 30 years of study he stopped beig a skeptic and became believer.
 
Hoddle Is A God said:
Is the truth out there?

For a start, we have to define what we mean by "truth."

Things tend to be considered by us to be true if they fit our perception of how things exist and work within our concept of Time & Space. If these phenomena exist outside our frames of reference, we may not even have the intellect or physical ability to recognise them, let alone understand them.

Secondly, what do you mean by "out there?"

Where is "there?"

Do you mean space? Our top cosmologists can't even agree on what space is!

Do you mean "everything that operates without our spectrum of light, and on our dimensional levels of matter and awareness?"

You see the problem?

That rather trite line - the truth is out there - is loaded with all kinds of key assumptions that has the effect of directing our attention away from what the "truth" (however that is to be defined) actually might be.
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Big Ern said:
Josef Allen Hynek was the scientist attached to the U.S. military's UFO studies, he was given unparalleled access to all the witnesses and 'evidence' available to the US from 1948 onwards, stating at the time, that UFO's as a subject was utterly ridiculous and a fad that would disappear in a few yeas. He enjoyed his job and successfully debunked for 30 decades.
However, during those 30 years of study he stopped beig a skeptic and became believer.
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Read all about it in his bestselling book Paying For My Retirement: Aliens 'n' That.
 
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Skylarker said:
I believe you. I was sat on a beach in Barbados, hadn't slept for 4 days and had taken enough drugs in that period to kill an elephant. I was with some bird and we both had the exact same hallucinations at the same time.

A helicopter came down on the ocean and thousands of soldiers appeared running towards us. We both saw it and when we were discussing it (at the time) everything I was seeing she was also seeing, and vice versa. Really bizarre, but 100% the truth.
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You sure you wasn't in Grenada?
 
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Skylarker said:
I believe you. I was sat on a beach in Barbados, hadn't slept for 4 days and had taken enough drugs in that period to kill an elephant. I was with some bird and we both had the exact same hallucinations at the same time.

A helicopter came down on the ocean and thousands of soldiers appeared running towards us. We both saw it and when we were discussing it (at the time) everything I was seeing she was also seeing, and vice versa. Really bizarre, but 100% the truth.
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Haig wasn't shouting " Get into the Copper " out of the pilot window was he .
Got stoned on acid once , with a friend , and all I seen was the devil in the fireplace all night . Fuked up crazy . Next morning when I was coming down I told my friend what I seen and he got a scared look on his face and said " I seen it too " . True story
 
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seabreeze said:
Haig wasn't shouting " Get into the Copper " out of the pilot window was he .
Got stoned on acid once , with a friend , and all I seen was the devil in the fireplace all night . Fuked up crazy . Next morning when I was coming down I told my friend what I seen and he got a scared look on his face and said " I seen it too " . True story
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I was utterly convinced that I'd seen Aliens land when I was tripping once. I was with several friends and we all saw a bright light descending from the sky and 'landing' on a piece of waste ground. I wanted to take a closer look and saw what looked like beams of light for legs on this thing, it was changing colour and pulsing. As I got closer to it, I could hear a horrible screaming sound, freaked out and bolted the other way.

It turned out that it wasn't Aliens, it was some ****ers out 'lamping' and the bright light was simply their lamp to flush out the badgers, the sound was of terrified badgers being flushed out of their set and set upon by dogs. ****ing ****s those people. Anyway, the acid totally skewed my view of the reality of it all.

Point being that even without drugs, people tend to fill in the blanks with fanciful explanations when they can't comprehend a phenomenon. Just because something is unexplained or mysterious, it doesn't mean that it's evidence of ET or Ghosts etc. It just means that it's unexplained.
 
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PISKIE said:
I was utterly convinced that I'd seen Aliens land when I was tripping once. I was with several friends and we all saw a bright light descending from the sky and 'landing' on a piece of waste ground. I wanted to take a closer look and saw what looked like beams of light for legs on this thing, it was changing colour and pulsing. As I got closer to it, I could hear a horrible screaming sound, freaked out and bolted the other way.

It turned out that it wasn't Aliens, it was some ****ers out 'lamping' and the bright light was simply their lamp to flush out the badgers, the sound was of terrified badgers being flushed out of their set and set upon by dogs. ****ing ****s those people. Anyway, the acid totally skewed my view of the reality of it all.

Point being that even without drugs, people tend to fill in the blanks with fanciful explanations when they can't comprehend a phenomenon. Just because something is unexplained or mysterious, it doesn't mean that it's evidence of ET or Ghosts etc. It just means that it's unexplained.
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That's fuking incredible ............ You had several friends ?.... lol , just kiddin buddy .
 
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PISKIE said:
Can you post some on here ?
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No.

Anyone who is interested in this subject can readily find it for themselves.

There are countless thousands of reported accounts, films clips, and photos. Testimony has been given by people from all walks of life, including Presidents, high-ranking military officials, astronauts, airline pilots, police officers, etc.

Those who do not want to believe in these things will always find ways to debunk it and to mock those who do. I have no intention of trying to persuade you (or anyone else) either way.
 
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