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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jun 6, 2017.

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  1. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    Then my work here is done.
     
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  2. PLT

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    Fair enough.

    My issue is more with the way we vote for a local MP which is also effectively a vote for their party in government. I understand how it works and why that is but I think it's absolute ****e as a system of representation. We should be able to vote for our government but 90% of people don't have that option because of the constituency they live in.
     
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    No the current system & figures are based on the 300k pensioners in residential care. The Dementia Tax will apply to all 12m pensioners, wherever they receive their care.

    Doesn't get reported much by the tax avoiding media outlets.
     
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  4. Walter Sobchak

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    I wonder if AV would work? You need to get peoples second preference vote so it could stop 'negative' campaigning.

    I find it hard to imagine a system that doesn't use single-member constituencies that would be fairer.
     
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  5. Carmine Galante.

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    I just think Labour have a 'tax them, they can afford it" attitude and don't really think some of their policies through.

    Taxing private school fees being an example.
     
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  6. Walter Sobchak

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    Thanks. Is it all care or just care that's not NHS care?

    Edit - Daft question ignore.
     
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    **** it, Im emigrating somewhere, cos I feel that ppl are stupid and scared of change, so they will vote the tories in.
     
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  8. The greengrocer

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    See ya
     
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  9. Walter Sobchak

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    Who knows it seems pretty close.
     
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  10. PattyNchips2

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    wont that be offset by the free university places?
     
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    Aye, nobody thought Brexit would win, or Trump...
     
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  12. originallambrettaman

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    University fees are lower than public school fees and most people are only at university for three years, you're at school for fourteen.

    Inheritance Tax is the unfairest of them all, you should be able to hand all your tax-paid savings on to your kids after you die.
     
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  13. Carmine Galante.

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    The taxing of private school fees is to pay for free school meals, allegedly.

    Obviously no child should go hungry but surely it's the responsibility of the parent to ensure their child is fed.

    If they didn't spend all their dole money on massive wide screen TV's, cannabis, cans of Stella and ciggies they could easily afford to send their off spring with a decent packed lunch.










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    I shall now don my tin helmet and wait for the incoming......
     
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  14. Chilton's Hundreds

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    The issue I have with the so called Dementia is this:

    A person that has worked all their working life, paying tax and NI, and only having had minimal use of the NHS (GPs, minor accidents, etc) is then expected to
    pay for care in their old age.

    They've already contributed but at the time of their life when they need the NHS the most then they have to pay again.

    I know the issue of social care of the elderly is one we must face but this seems grossly unfair and surprisingly it's probably the middle England Tory voters
    that will probably end up paying for it. It's a strange move.
     
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  15. Amin Yapusi

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    So you're trying to be clever and twist a point out of something that wasn't said?
     
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  16. bum_chinned_crab

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    Happens to my posts on a daily basis.
     
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    Real wages in the UK have stagnated compared to the rising cost of living. I think only Greece and one other European country have slower wage increases compared to relative growth, couple with the massive percentage rise in food bank use since 2010 and an increase in child poverty. Austerity just doesn't work, especially in advanced capitalist economies. Even from a non-moralist perspective austerity is just crap economics and the 'Tories are heartless but economically sound, Labour have good intentions but economically illiterate' myth needs to die; it doesn't face up to analysis by economists. Hayek and Friedman's neoliberal economic theories that inspired Thatcherism and Reaganomics in the 80s and 90s and have become the new consensus in Britain and the United States by the main political parties (until Corbyn won and started advocating Neo-Keynesian policies) are simply failing.
     
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  18. PattyNchips2

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    but over those 14 years, I seriously doubt that you will pay over 27K in VAT
     
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  19. PattyNchips2

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    no youve convinced me... I shall brace myself for a Tory win.
     
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