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It's a shame when threads about incidents get hijacked with politics, but this is a general election thread and therefore is warranted - if not a bit premature.
A bit like myself.
I've found it interesting and posters have made some interesting points.
It's specific as you say, usually I'm not interested in posters views on politics but I am for this.
 
May’s announced she’ll rip up human rights laws that will ‘impede new terror legislation’.

All well and good in theory but when will it used against the innocent non terrorists? When will it be used against those who just need to speak out?

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Benjamin Franklin

Even Peter Hitchens was referencing that in light of what’s happened.

On a tangent, if the government and police used half of the time and energy they expended on hassling football fans, and introducing specific dedicated legislation, on terrorist suspects, this whole islamist scare would blow over in a year or so.
 
It's a shame when threads about incidents get hijacked with politics, but this is a general election thread and therefore is warranted - if not a bit premature.

Until someone says something that offends the masses.

Probably be Bob and a comment about the M word.
 
Yeah there was a piece on the BBC news a year or so ago and the majority of the public had no appetite for it.
One of the candidates was using it to whip up her campaign.
It would be extremely costly in a Country that's a lot less wealthy than here.
Fair comment fella...I'll take it on board.
 
Our rights, that were sweated blood for, are being eroded mate.

Let's not let these terrorist ****s give the Tories an excuse to rip up decades of our fathers' struggle.
 
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It's costed based on flawed calculations (maybe Abbott was responsible), the more you increase taxes, the more worthwhile it is for people/companies to work at avoiding them. The last time taxes went up, revenues actually went down.

At the moment, the major multinational corporations like Apple, Amazon, eBay etc do not have their HQ's here, they're in places like Ireland and Luxembourg, where tax rates are lower. We've been lowering ours to try and compete and rightly so.

We're the fifth biggest economy in the world.

If these companies leave, or don't play ball, our entreprenuers will fill the gap.

Where's your British spirit?
 
On a tangent, if the government and police used half of the time and energy they expended on hassling football fans, and introducing specific dedicated legislation, on terrorist suspects, this whole islamist scare would blow over in a year or so.

There's a grain of truth in that but:

Maybe if they and border control were funded properly, we'd have a better chance.

That along with cutting off their funding, instead of making deals with the Saudi's etc.
 
It's two days until the election, so I think the timing of this thread is spot on.
There are plenty of other threads filled with enough drivel if people have complaints about this thread running.
It's like the twats who used to write in to Points of View, why didnt they just turn over or turn off.
 
Unbelievable this thread runs on when the Manchester thread was closed for next to **** all.

The no politics rule is lifted for a single thread for the duration of a general election.

And if you whine about the moderation on this site one more ****ing time, I'm going to come round and wee through your letterbox...
 
This is like playing tennis, five games at a time.

Off for my tea - back soon
 
It's costed based on flawed calculations (maybe Abbott was responsible), the more you increase taxes, the more worthwhile it is for people/companies to work at avoiding them. The last time taxes went up, revenues actually went down.

At the moment, the major multinational corporations like Apple, Amazon, eBay etc do not have their HQ's here, they're in places like Ireland and Luxembourg, where tax rates are lower. We've been lowering ours to try and compete and rightly so.

I tell you what I find funny. People talk about corporation tax as if it only affects big evil global corporations. They don't spare a thought for all the very decent and honest small British businesses who are struggling in a digital age to compete with these gigantic tax dodgers with their ultra low prices. They don't spare a thought for their own Finances and the fact that company directors will look to salvage a rise in corporation tax from customers and decreased wage growth. They gobble up all the rhetorical ****e these agenda driven bullshit spouting politicians tell them.

And the best one, which is hugely ironic, so many people I know whinge about big companies dodging tax but still see something they want and go searching the internet for the lowest price, more often than not going and buying the product from one of these very tax evaders they piss and moan about, who through their fiddling are able to offer goods at a lower price than their more honest British counterparts.
 
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There's a grain of truth in that but:

Maybe if they and border control were funded properly, we'd have a better chance.

That along with cutting off their funding, instead of making deals with the Saudi's etc.

Seems this latest atrocity was done by people who were not shy about their views and who had been flagged as being violent nutters.

Failure to prevent it: overstretched secret services or sheer volume of nutters here?
I suspect a combination of the two, but they daren't say so in public.
 
The Labour manifesto is dire, and costed completely wrong. There slogan is wrong, it's not for the many. It will cost me money, along with thousands of other people. How is that 'fair'? Why should I pay a higher percentage than anyone else?

Increasing taxes won't increase the amount of tax they get in, it will force people like me to find ways (legally) to pay less tax. I just don't get how he can dare say it is for the many when there will be thousands of people worse off. Same with the big corporations we need to attract this country. We are leaving the EU, we clearly need a low corporation tax to provide an incentive to those companies who might be considering leaving.

There is no doubt Labour are getting closer in the polls, they are giving money away to every Tom, Dick and Harry. In five years when they realise they can't afford it, it will be up to another Conservative government to fix it.
 
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There's a grain of truth in that but:

Maybe if they and border control were funded properly, we'd have a better chance.

That along with cutting off their funding, instead of making deals with the Saudi's etc.
The west needs the Saudi's to tackle Iran....That's why we sell them a lot of arms and turn a blind eye to their funding of radical Islam..
 
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