Sol Campbell

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Archers Road said:
Yeah, I do get that. But betrayal and self interest are the norm in the modern game. Had Campbell gone to any club other than Arsenal, there would not be this torrent of bile directed at him. His betrayal would have been forgotten by now.

All the stuff about him misleading the club etc. is pure hypocrisy from spurs fans imo, a mask for some pretty unpalatable hatred.
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I can understand them being miffed.
Its just the usual blinkered fan view though.
We spend all this free time talking and watching football because we love it, and we love the clubs we support.
To players, it's a job, it's how they feed their families and make their living.
They don't feel the same way as we do.
Take Harry Kane for instance, an Arsenal fan as a kid. If he was Hardcore Arsenal, he wouldn't have even entertained the idea of playing for Spurs.

But no, he is a footballer, Arsenal didn't want him any more, and Spurs did, and now Spurs have a great striker on their hands, who is no doubt getting paid a **** ton of cash, club allegiances go out the window when you see a contract worth £6m a year put in front of you.
 
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Archers Road said:
Yeah, I do get that. But betrayal and self interest are the norm in the modern game. Had Campbell gone to any club other than Arsenal, there would not be this torrent of bile directed at him. His betrayal would have been forgotten by now.

All the stuff about him misleading the club etc. is pure hypocrisy from spurs fans imo, a mask for some pretty unpalatable hatred.
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Not at that time it wasn't.

Also, even now, how many captains go to a close rival? English even less.

It takes a special tosser like Sol to do that.
 
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Bodinki said:
I can understand them being miffed.
Its just the usual blinkered fan view though.
We spend all this free time talking and watching football because we love it, and we love the clubs we support.
To players, it's a job, it's how they feed their families and make their living.
They don't feel the same way as we do.
Take Harry Kane for instance, an Arsenal fan as a kid. If he was Hardcore Arsenal, he wouldn't have even entertained the idea of playing for Spurs.

But no, he is a footballer, Arsenal didn't want him any more, and Spurs did, and now Spurs have a great striker on their hands, who is no doubt getting paid a **** ton of cash, club allegiances go out the window when you see a contract worth £6m a year put in front of you.
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A lot of sense in there Bod <ok>
 
Archers Road said:
He went to Arsenal. Having lied and said he had no intention of leaving. But really, he went to Arsenal.

Pochettino left Saints for Spurs in exactly the same manner by the way - having spent months assuring Saints he intended to sign a new contract in the summer, all the while he was secretly negotiating with spurs.
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He went to Spurs though, not Pompey. Now Harry Redknapp got a bit of treatment from you guys for making that journey as I recall.
 
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It's an interesting one ... Peter Shilton remains a Leicester City legend despite ending up at Forest and winning both the league and the European Cup with them ... obviously things were quite a lot easier back in those days and it's not really comparable to winning the EPL these days <whistle>
 
Sharpe* said:
This was on Talksport last night. Was interesting.

His former agent trying to justify it and avoiding other questions was nauseating.

Ultimately, Spurs are absolutely right not to invite him. They would be mugs to.

Regardless of whether the club failed to sort out his contract he still went to their biggest rivals which was a total lack of respect to everyone associated with the club and showed his true character.

Sol is an Arsenal legend and to an extent a Portsmouth and England one too - but not Spurs.

If he is offended by no invite that would confirm he still doesn't understand why the move would be a bad thing to Spurs and so justifies not inviting him!

Players should take into account mugging off a club and its fans won't be accepted.

Especially the captain!
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<applause>
 
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Archers Road said:
Pochettino left Saints for Spurs in exactly the same manner by the way - having spent months assuring Saints he intended to sign a new contract in the summer, all the while he was secretly negotiating with spurs.
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I'm not saying that Saints fans have no right to be angry at Poch, but I do think there is a marked difference between the two cases.

Had Poch played for, and captained Saints, and had he been such a key player for them, and had he cost Saints £millions in lost revenue, and had to gone to Portsmouth, I might have some sympathy for your argument, Archie.
 
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Hoddle Is A God said:
I'm not saying that Saints fans have no right to be angry at Poch, but I do think there is a marked difference between the two cases.

Had Poch played for, and captained Saints, and had be been such a key player for them, and had he cost Saints £millions in loss revenue, and had to gone to Portsmouth, I might have some sympathy for your argument, Archie.
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The only "marked difference" for any football fan is when it involves that fan's particulatr club ... let's be honest <ok>
 
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FosseFilberto said:
The only "marked difference" for any football fan is when it involves that fan's particulatr club ... let's be honest <ok>
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Wrong, Nigel. Again.

It matters most that Campbell went to Arsenal, having lied to Spurs and its fans. That is the point.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
It's an interesting one ... Peter Shilton remains a Leicester City legend despite ending up at Forest and winning both the league and the European Cup with them ... obviously things were quite a lot easier back in those days and it's not really comparable to winning the EPL these days <whistle>
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Pat Jennings is still a legend at Spurs I believe.
 
I get why Spurs fans would be annoyed. I suspect though that a large element of it is seeing how well he done at their rival and more evidence that they lived firmly in Arsenal's shadow during that period.

For Sol, career wise, the move was a no brainer. More money, more success, same location. Who wouldn't take that deal?
 
Archers Road said:
Pat Jennings is still a legend at Spurs I believe.
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He is.

Jennings gave us the best years of his career, in my opinion.

He negotiated his way out of the club in a decent, and open manner.

Chalk and cheese, Archie.
 
Hoddle Is A God said:
Wrong, Nigel. Again.

It matters most that Campbell went to Arsenal, having lied to Spurs and its fans. That is the point.
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Right Quentin, I'm afraid, m'duck ... from the ouside other fans might also deride the manner in which Campbell manipulated his move but the honours he went on to win with Arsenall more than justified joining them in wholly dispassionate footballing terms ...<ok>
 
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